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Sep 7 2018 09:37am
cmon your guys have a real mental issue by always coming back on specific events regarding migrants & refugees.
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Sep 7 2018 09:41am
Quote (balrog66 @ 7 Sep 2018 17:36)
A student extremist right wing group (Schild & Vrienden, started out as a memey right wing chat group, ended up with front men posing with guns wishing for ethnic cleansing) from Belgium got far more coverage than Chemnitz.

It's barely covered in NL. We're far more busy with integrity scandals in our government atm.


interesting, never heard of these guys

and good to see people looking at their own problems

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cmon your guys have a real mental issue by always coming back on specific events regarding migrants & refugees.


we wouldnt need to, if these "specific" events wouldnt pile up by the thousands
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Sep 7 2018 09:47am
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we wouldnt need to, if these "specific" events wouldnt pile up by the thousands


Heeee no, your are singing the same song again and again, this ends up in being ridiculous.
Few weeks ago, here, i explained the amount of crimes is always up the first years and then comes down.
Merkel made some shit thats clear, but your guys are just making things worse.
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Sep 7 2018 09:54am
Quote (ampoo @ Sep 7 2018 03:41pm)
interesting, never heard of these guys

and good to see people looking at their own problems



we wouldnt need to, if these "specific" events wouldnt pile up by the thousands


Biggest issue atm is the removal of the dividend tax, which no party in the cabinet had in their party programmes. But we do know that both Unilever and Shell pushed this on the agenda, promising that it would be good for the settling climate for multinationals in NL. Now we know that's pretty much bullshit, so we are stuck with a cabinet that has basically bent over bigtime for big money (cutting that tax will cost us 2bn). Meanwhile students get shafted more and more (interest hike has been announced for student loans, after being promised that the money saved by switching from a gift to loan system would be spent on making things cheaper for students), there were plans to have handicapped people work under minimum wage, all kinds of disgusting stuff.

And to add to that, the ruling party has been the party with the most integrity scandals by far. Fraud, deceit, perjury, it's all been said and done. But too many people are 'content' with the current situation so they keep voting VVD. Also Mark Rutte practices some kind of voodoo magic because all these scandals slide off his back like he's made of Teflon.
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Sep 7 2018 10:04am
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Biggest issue atm is the removal of the dividend tax, which no party in the cabinet had in their party programmes. But we do know that both Unilever and Shell pushed this on the agenda, promising that it would be good for the settling climate for multinationals in NL. Now we know that's pretty much bullshit, so we are stuck with a cabinet that has basically bent over bigtime for big money (cutting that tax will cost us 2bn). Meanwhile students get shafted more and more (interest hike has been announced for student loans, after being promised that the money saved by switching from a gift to loan system would be spent on making things cheaper for students), there were plans to have handicapped people work under minimum wage, all kinds of disgusting stuff.

And to add to that, the ruling party has been the party with the most integrity scandals by far. Fraud, deceit, perjury, it's all been said and done. But too many people are 'content' with the current situation so they keep voting VVD. Also Mark Rutte practices some kind of voodoo magic because all these scandals slide off his back like he's made of Teflon.


woow, yeah, that captures our media focus at this time and represents the current political situation. I have somewhat put this in a perspective that we've got a political system where politicians are being held accountable. Where scandals are often resulting in resignations, yet when it comes to this 2 billion tax cut for the rich, while not improving the climate for multinationals, Rutte is teflon, it's almost ridiculous beyond believe. Funnily on the issue, it is a tax cut that investors in the UK already have, this can end up in not being rectified to just pressure corporations in the UK during the Brexit process. Or at least, I "hope" it is, but on this point we need more protests on the issue, something the Dutch don't do enough !

2billion a year for a small country is a fucklot of money.

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Also Mark Rutte practices some kind of voodoo magic because all these scandals slide off his back like he's made of Teflon.


https://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-services/energie-environnement/0301833154099-evasion-fiscale-shell-mis-en-cause-aux-pays-bas-2184610.php

Les Pays-Bas ont longtemps été considérés comme un paradis fiscal - l'un des trois montages d'optimisation les plus plébiscités est d'ailleurs connu sous le nom de « Double Irish with a Dutch sandwich ».

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The Netherlands has long been considered a tax haven - one of the three most popular optimization fixtures is known as "Double Irish with a Dutch sandwich".
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 7 2018 05:37pm)
https://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-services/energie-environnement/0301833154099-evasion-fiscale-shell-mis-en-cause-aux-pays-bas-2184610.php

Les Pays-Bas ont longtemps été considérés comme un paradis fiscal - l'un des trois montages d'optimisation les plus plébiscités est d'ailleurs connu sous le nom de « Double Irish with a Dutch sandwich ».

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The Netherlands has long been considered a tax haven - one of the three most popular optimization fixtures is known as "Double Irish with a Dutch sandwich".


That's a part of the plan as well for this government. Putting in an extra tax when it comes to sandwich tax havens and reducing letter box companies. Not 100% sure the Irish is being covered, only 80%, you guys can get me on that ;)

https://www.ft.com/content/ef9b87ac-1af5-11e8-aaca-4574d7dabfb6


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The Netherlands is fighting back against its reputation as a tax haven with reforms to make it more difficult for companies to set up in the country without a real business presence.

The tax proposals, which will need to be backed by the Dutch parliament, are part of a bid to clean up the Netherlands’ image and attract genuine investment, rather than “shell” or “letterbox” companies. The EU has also vowed to crack down on multinational tax avoidance.

Menno Snel, the Dutch secretary of state for finance, told parliament last week that his government was determined to “overturn the Netherlands’ image as a country that makes it easy for multinationals to avoid taxation”.

“This stubborn image undermines the investment climate,” Mr Snel said.

The Netherlands is the eurozone’s fifth-largest economy and home to about 9,000 shell or “ letterbox” companies.

As part of its reform efforts, the government plans to introduce a new royalties tax from 2021, so ending a loophole used by the likes of rock bands The Rolling Stones and U2 to register companies in the Netherlands.

The tax will be levied on businesses that pay royalties in another country with a lower tax rate or in a jurisdiction that the EU has deemed non-co-operative on tax.

The royalties levy will “prevent the Netherlands from being used for transfer activities to tax havens” said the Dutch finance ministry.

It said that the reforms were designed to counter “international criticism of the Dutch tax system”, adding that “the downside of having an international oriented tax system is that it is susceptible to improper use”. The country is seen as one of the EU’s low-tax jurisdictions, along with Ireland and Luxembourg.

As a separate part of its drive to attract more investment, the Netherlands’ new right-leaning government has promised to reduce corporate tax rates and abolish a dividend tax.

It is also seeking to persuade Anglo-Dutch giant Unilever to set up a new unified headquarters in Rotterdam after Brexit. A final decision is due in coming weeks.

Dutch corporate tax arrangements have come under increasing international scrutiny, notably during the Paradise Papers leaks, which revealed that a lucrative tax deal struck in 2008 between the Netherlands and consumer giant Procter & Gamble did not go through proper checks and balances.

The Dutch finance ministry found this month that 78 secretive advance tax deals, which Dutch law permits, did not follow proper procedure because of mistakes by local tax officials. It has promised to tighten up the rules by ensuring that such tax deals can only be signed off by a team of government tax specialists.

The government says it backs European Commission plans to increase transparency over corporate taxation, including a requirement for multinational companies to provide country by country reports of where they make their profits

The Commission is also drawing up plans, championed by France and Germany, for more effective taxation of digital companies.


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Sep 7 2018 11:18am
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Funded by pro Palestinian groups supported by Labour

And they say they don't dispute Israel's right to exist... :rolleyes:
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Sorry, but this isn't true. I don't like Sánchez myself, but your claim is very different to what the article says. I'm referring to EL MUNDO, one of Spain's 3 most prestigious and trust worthy newspapers, which btw is right leaning and very anti-Sánchez.

First of all, the economic growth hasn't reversed... it's just growing slower, at a rate comparable to 2014 (when Rajoy's right wing government had absolute majority).

And second of all, the article says that these are the results for the second trimester of the year (April, May and June). Sánchez was took over on the 2nd of June, so the new government had little to no impact on these results. In fact the article claims that the slowing rate at which our economy is growing is likely due to there being a fractured hung parliament, which causes political instability... not the change in government itself.
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Sep 7 2018 02:10pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 7 Sep 2018 18:15)
That's a part of the plan as well for this government. Putting in an extra tax when it comes to sandwich tax havens and reducing letter box companies. Not 100% sure the Irish is being covered, only 80%, you guys can get me on that ;)
https://www.ft.com/content/ef9b87ac-1af5-11e8-aaca-4574d7dabfb6
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The 20% is the most delicious part ^_^
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