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Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 22 2018 04:52pm)
BanalWhataboutism


It's really not.

He's submitting nominees at a very slow rate and when he does submit them they tend to be unqualified which leads Congress to not want to approve them.
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The real question is, did the person who made this intentionally mess up the alphabet, or was it an accident?
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It's really not.

He's submitting nominees at a very slow rate and when he does submit them they tend to be unqualified which leads Congress to not want to approve them.


Hes appointed more judges than anyone in history

Youre either lying or youve been lied too

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Hes appointed more judges than anyone in history

Youre either lying or youve been lied too


Nice changing the subject, were talking about his departments. Judges are easier to confirm because there's sooooo many more positions, and republicans went out of their way to avoid appointing Obama's judges creating a record number of vacancies so their next president could appoint them.

Republicans also had a giant list of people they like to appoint starting out in his presidency so he didn't even have to think about who to appoint.

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The relative uniformity of the three rankings by political party suggests their opinions are based on educated, impartial analysis of the presidents' actual merits, rather than on agreement with political ideology (see e.g. Democrats' ranking of Reagan and Republicans' ranking of FDR).

Of course, we're only a year in so it's incredibly premature to make any confident claims about his presidency or even Obama's, but it suggests we're not off to a good start.


If trump got us into WW3, successfully enacted a series of totalitarian economic measures, propaganda campaigns to become more popular, and power abuses, he would fly up the rankings to fit in with other "great" presidents.

Is that something anyone here wants to see?
Are those the sorts of things that make a president 'impartially' 'great'?
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If trump got us into WW3, successfully enacted a series of totalitarian economic measures, propaganda campaigns to become more popular, and power abuses, he would fly up the rankings to fit in with other "great" presidents.

Is that something anyone here wants to see?
Are those the sorts of things that make a president 'impartially' 'great'?


... and they made it SO easy to avoid such a moronic and purely fictional "argument": all you have to do is leave out roosevelt, and you have a list of post WWII presidents and their ratings in boldface that you could compare your emperor to.
but unsurprisingly you still went for it, because ANYthing is legitimate to make excuses for your orange cult leader, no matter how dishonest and easily refutable it is - hacks gonna hack...
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If trump got us into WW3, successfully enacted a series of totalitarian economic measures, propaganda campaigns to become more popular, and power abuses, he would fly up the rankings to fit in with other "great" presidents.

Is that something anyone here wants to see?
Are those the sorts of things that make a president 'impartially' 'great'?


Gotta do what you gotta do when you're faced with a morally justified war against a genocidal superpower bent on world domination.

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... and they made it SO easy to avoid such a moronic and purely fictional "argument": all you have to do is leave out roosevelt, and you have a list of post WWII presidents and their ratings in boldface that you could compare your emperor to.
but unsurprisingly you still went for it, because ANYthing is legitimate to make excuses for your orange cult leader, no matter how dishonest and easily refutable it is - hacks gonna hack...


Also this. Always jump to defend your leader.
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... and they made it SO easy to avoid such a moronic and purely fictional "argument": all you have to do is leave out roosevelt, and you have a list of post WWII presidents and their ratings in boldface that you could compare your emperor to.
but unsurprisingly you still went for it, because ANYthing is legitimate to make excuses for your orange cult leader, no matter how dishonest and easily refutable it is - hacks gonna hack...


Being a douchebag is not an argument.
I have a long running and well documented feud concerning the criteria of these survey rankings that goes back years before trump was elected.
They are a poor metric for ranking presidents and are not a sound replacement for actually looking at and analyzing what the presidents did.

If you listen closely you might find out that i'm saying that trump succeeding at getting a ton of authoritarian measures enacted and doing a bunch of bad things would not be good and isn't something i want.

Try to look for the truth. Think critically. Dont just kneejerk attack trump and anyone who you perceive as defending him regardless of merit.

Do you think getting into wars and enacting an agenda regardless of who they trample along the way makes someone a great president or not?

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