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Jan 20 2024 10:07pm
define irony: a bunch of plebs qqing about election integrity because an orange blob screamed at them about it, when said Orange blob actually tried to steal the election in question by hiring fake electors and sending fake signed certification documents to washington
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define irony: a bunch of plebs qqing about election integrity because an orange blob screamed at them about it, when said Orange blob actually tried to steal the election in question by hiring fake electors and sending fake signed certification documents to washington


ya tried to trick them with fake electors. would of got away with it but those meddeling kids saved our dEmOcRaREEEEE

whats funny bout the fAkE eLeCtOrS IS the proceedings were interrupted by the iNsErReCtIoN and the fAkE eLeCtOrS were the only people that didnt get to make their case when john sullivan and his crew breached the building while the trumper were still giving speeches. yup hands down leftie frauds you know how to run a scam. just keep lying and when ya get caught and exposed just keep lying louder
saul alinsky rules for radicals............... ya dont have rules

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 20 2024 10:26pm
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ya tried to trick them with fake electors. would of got away with it but those meddeling kids saved our dEmOcRaREEEEE


Cant wait until the extreme left puts you all in jail for making a gaff out of trying to destroy democracy.

All of you will either be shot or jailed.

New World Order is here and your orange blob cant stop shit
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Cant wait until the extreme left puts you all in jail for making a gaff out of trying to destroy democracy.

All of you will either be shot or jailed.

New World Order is here and your orange blob cant stop shit


vote "REEEEEEEEEE" in the poll
and when your eating bugs ........

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Jan 20 2024 11:52pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2024 09:23pm)
So what? The FBI was right to warn social media companies to expect disinformation before the election. Do you actually think they were wrong to do that? If so, explain why.

The FBI(contrary to Trump lunatics, and I guess you now fall into that category) isn't some monolith run by one guy or a group of people. Just because some in the FBI had information on the laptop doesn't mean others in the FBI knew and/or were informed enough to change what they did at the time. Your example is illustrating... should the FBI provide feedback to the media based on the evidence they've gathered for every story in the news? Where does that lead?


Per the FBI's own employees (via deposition), the agents on the Russia unit were aware that the laptop was real, and knowingly led Twitter/Facebook to believe otherwise. When asked directly by Facebook, the FBI specifically left them in the dark, leading to the suppression of the story.

As to your question, should the FBI clarify that "yeah, this isn't what we were talking about"? Obviously, or they shouldn't have given the warning in the first place.
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Per the FBI's own employees (via deposition), the agents on the Russia unit were aware that the laptop was real, and knowingly led Twitter/Facebook to believe otherwise. When asked directly by Facebook, the FBI specifically left them in the dark, leading to the suppression of the story.

As to your question, should the FBI clarify that "yeah, this isn't what we were talking about"? Obviously, or they shouldn't have given the warning in the first place.


Source?
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Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2024 11:58pm)
Source?


https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/testimony-reveals-fbi-employees-who-warned-social-media-companies-about-hack





To be clear: The FBI knew perfectly well the laptop was real and purposefully and intentionally misled the public to support a false claim of russian disinformation, while simultaneously giving social media companies the false narrative they wanted to censor it. Not necessarily misleading twitter or facebook, since I'm guessing they too knew the hunter biden laptop was real and just wanted an excuse to censor it.
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Jan 21 2024 12:47am
Its pretty undeniable that the FBI put their fingers on the scales in both the 2016 and 2020 elections. That included public facing statements, private spying and sabotage, and commercial coordination. In 2016 they had such a chaotic mess of personal motives and self-serving interests that it wound up harming Hillary and boosting Trump, but I think its abundantly clear that wasn't by partisan intent. In 2020 it was just a naked power play to give Biden a boost in the election, no other purpose than that. Makes the hoover FBI look like paragons of prudence by comparison
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they get him yet?
You Won't BELIEVE What The Documents Say About Fani Willis

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Jan 21 2024 03:18am
The facts about the laptop story and its suppression has been laid out by others already. One other aspect I think needs addressing:

Quote (IceMage @ 21 Jan 2024 02:28)
That's why I don't like Elon Musk taking over Twitter, because he's an overt political actor who has endorsed Republicans and condemned Democrats, while pushing bullshit narratives aligned with the Trump cult. His company pays one of the most dishonest and inflammatory voices on the right, Tucker Carlson.

Facebook is a place where right-wing propagnda spreads... far more than any other perspective. So this whole narrative that social media companies are supressing Trump and the right is complete nonsense. Facebook and Twitter facilitate the spread of right-wing propaganda every day.

It's completely laughable to complain about Elon being a political actor when the overwhelming majority of Big Tech is heavily on the side of Democrats. They're one of the Democrats' biggest donors, they keep shadow banning right-wing content and censoring it at a much higher rate than left-wing content. Heck, there is even a clip of the Google CEO addressing the Google employees on the day after Trump's election in 2016 with the words "we (sic) lost".

Also, if you go to places like r/politics or the commentary section of imgur, you will see that left-wing talking points and/or propaganda spread on social media like wildfire too. At the end of the day, right-wing perspectives might spread better on social media because the left can't meme, and due to the recently emerged "diploma divide", i.e. Trump voters perhaps being more susceptible to propaganda and disinformation. But that's just a feature of the two sides' electoral coalitions, just like the Trump voter swap (trade college educated suburbanites for working-class rural voters) has hurt the GOP in terms of fundraising and midterm turnout. It doesn't give Big Tech the moral justification to (ab)use their near-monopolistic power to tip the electoral scales.



Your entire line of reasoning hinges on the premise that (contemporary, 'trumpy') right-wing perspectives are less true and morally inferior to left-wing perspectives, and on the assumption that this supposed inferiority of right-wing perspectives justifies the application of a double standard by institutions like the national security community, the federal bureaucracy or the fourth estate.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 21 2024 03:34am
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