Why does that imply creation? Who told you thats how it is? I dont keep bouncing around anything, you just keep throwing around wild assumptions without any foundation.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Apr 9 2026 12:39pm

i jus posted a science video. your answer is probably "happens because of fornication"

this has been a fun thread for me. my usual method has been to try and reason with people. for some reason i gave up on that.
the facts have been coming in about 'atheism for a bout 150 years. its time to switch to open mocking

magical morphing monkeys lol

This isn't an assumption. This is exactly what exists when it comes to science, physics, math, and God's word. This is why more than 50% of people in these fields believe in either God or a higher power.

I would much rather put my faith in this than live my life putting my faith in "nothing". Being in a position of "I'm not really sure what to think on this subject because it's outside of what our technology can prove" to me is a more realistic position vs mocking a group of people behind Facebook memes and saying everyone else is wrong and I'm right. (Which is the entire premise of this thread and the only direction addone has taken).

The scale of our universe is absolutely massive beyond human understanding and that alone is enough for me to know that we have an enormous truth and cause to that on the other end. After giving my life to the lord and following him I've learned the truth behind what you feel is only assumptions.

"Reason with people" Kinda funny to hear that from a religious person.

Jesus came to abolish religion, he came to fulfill the law.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Apr 9 2026 01:46pm

I dont put my faith in anything as long as I dont have a reason to - which is exactly what anyone should do.

And yes, it is an assumption. No, science does not say anything with a starting point implies creation, neither do maths or physics. You are once again creating (no pun intended) your own truth.

Yes a lot of scientists, physicists or mathematicians are religious, sure. Thats because none of these fields are colliding with religion in any way. - which is what I said from the start. So back to square 1: Science, Math and physics do not suggest a creator. Some Scientists might believe in a creator, but that has nothing to do with science. Mathematicians might believe in a creator, but theres no math that calculates god. Theres also Bakers, hairdressers, bricklayers and footballplayers who believe in god. Doesnt mean the game of football suggests theres a god.

Jesus came to act like he was god which obviously cost him his life. Blasphemous acts always led to that end in those times.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Apr 9 2026 01:56pm

This is not my own truth. 100% of what I am bringing up is reflective of God's word and the bible.

You are still incorrect about Science, Physics and Math.

Everything that begins to exist has a cause. All 3 of those things show and demonstrate this in their studies. This isn't something that is debateable... That is a factual thing.

Add God's word to that equation it accounts for everything.

I now take my free will and follow Jesus because this is what he taught before he returned to the father. You are taking your free will and deciding to live your life simply believing in this idea of "nothing". We are both free to choose these routes.

My ask of you would be to approach everything rooted in love. If you ever find yourself rooted in evil to revisit your heart and ask why you lead yourself in that direction. Everyone is deserving of love and everyone was created with a purpose. I just pray you learn of that purpose and find your salvation in Christ. That is something you would have to pursue on your own.

No one knows anything about EVERYTHING, so stop talking crap here. Science does NOT say everything needs to have a cause. Not even everything we are able to observate has a cause. Atomic Decay for example doesnt have a cause. No law of nature implies that everything has a cause. Its all bs from your side. You make up stuff thats suits your narrative and thats about it.

These are not my words and is not something that has my signature on it. If you want to claim God is bs you are free to do so. I will continue to pursue the lord and will stay focused on truth.

Nuclear instability is a cause and in order for Atomic Decay to occur the atom must first be present. In order for it to be present it has to exist. In order for it to exist (I wonder how it exists)

The principle (causality) exists in ALL applied sciences. Stating that every material effect must have an adequate cause.

You keep saying that I'm making this stuff up, but I am simply referencing what actual scientists say. I'm referencing what God is saying. Anything I am saying you can use your own resources to look yourself. I am not the author of the bible and I am not the scientist doing these studies and making these statements, they are.

Again not my words, not my signature.