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Quote (Voyaging @ 22 Feb 2018 19:31)
Which lie is that? This one?

https://i.imgur.com/qA4HG7s.png


I hope you do realize that the republican party is not following a uniform ideology. There are wings and factions.

Realistically, what Trump did in 2015 and 2016 was a hostile takeover of the republican party. He forced a massive shift of priorities onto the GOP, and this has left a lot of the Jeff Flake, John McCain, George W. Bush type of republicans behind. And the majority of the self-identifying republicans among scholars probably belongs to this establishment-interventionist-soft-on-immigration wing of the party, which hates Trump almost as much as the dems.

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I hope you do realize that the republican party is not following a uniform ideology. There are wings and factions.

Realistically, what Trump did in 2015 and 2016 was a hostile takeover of the republican party. He forced a massive shift of priorities onto the GOP, and this has left a lot of the Jeff Flake, John McCain, George W. Bush type of republicans behind. And the majority of the self-identifying republicans among scholars probably belongs to this establishment-interventionist-soft-on-immigration wing of the party, which hates Trump almost as much as the dems.


The relative uniformity of the three rankings by political party suggests their opinions are based on educated, impartial analysis of the presidents' actual merits, rather than on agreement with political ideology (see e.g. Democrats' ranking of Reagan and Republicans' ranking of FDR).

Of course, we're only a year in so it's incredibly premature to make any confident claims about his presidency or even Obama's, but it suggests we're not off to a good start.
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The relative uniformity of the three rankings by political party suggests their opinions are based on educated, impartial analysis of the presidents' actual merits, rather than on agreement with political ideology (see e.g. Democrats' ranking of Reagan and Republicans' ranking of FDR).

Of course, we're only a year in so it's incredibly premature to make any confident claims about his presidency or even Obama's, but it suggests we're not off to a good start.


Weeell, are the rankings that uniform outside of the very top and very bottom though?

Anyway, I agree that it's too premature to really rank Trump, or any president for that matter, after just one year in office.
At this point in his presidency, George W. Bush would probably have been ranked in the top10 or so....

Nobdy can deny that Trump got off to a very rocky start. I just wanted to point out that your argument "look, even repulbican scholars think trump sucks" might be flawed since those republican scholars probably belong to the strain of republicanism most opposed to Trump.

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Weeell, are the rankings that uniform outside of the very top and very bottom though?

Anyway, I agree that it's too premature to really rank Trump, or any president for that matter, after just one year in office.
At this point in his presidency, George W. Bush would probably have been ranked in the top10 or so....

Nobdy can deny that Trump got off to a very rocky start. I just wanted to point out that your argument "look, even repulbican scholars think trump sucks" might be flawed since those republican scholars probably belong to the strain of republicanism most opposed to Trump.


does trump at least shave, or do you have to kiss through a forest of old man asshair?
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does trump at least shave, or do you have to kiss through a forest of old man asshair?



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Weeell, are the rankings that uniform outside of the very top and very bottom though?

Anyway, I agree that it's too premature to really rank Trump, or any president for that matter, after just one year in office.
At this point in his presidency, George W. Bush would probably have been ranked in the top10 or so....

Nobdy can deny that Trump got off to a very rocky start. I just wanted to point out that your argument "look, even repulbican scholars think trump sucks" might be flawed since those republican scholars probably belong to the strain of republicanism most opposed to Trump.


not to mention dick riding obama
I am not foolish enough to think that just because Trump has been so successful this far and shit tiffany cufflinks for me that we can rank his performance until at least 8 years from now. And polling, in this hyperpoliticized climate, rofl.
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Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 22 2018 07:31pm)
Which lie is that? This one?

https://i.imgur.com/qA4HG7s.png


Lol, i was gonna check a bit more on those 187 ppl, instead of really getting into it i saw this:


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