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Mar 23 2020 02:41pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/03/22/39-year-old-woman-dies-waiting-for-coronavirus-test-results/amp/

39 year old social worker.

Not just killing boomers.


Quote (IceMage @ Mar 23 2020 04:15pm)
Nice.


They should've thought twice about having their circle jerk during a pandemic.

It was just more fake news back then.

Social workers and nurses will probably be heavily affected.

I am going to go home and bathe in bleach.

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 23 2020 02:43pm
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Mar 23 2020 02:42pm
- Ironically C19 will probably start to kill massively ... In April... In U.S.
- France will do massive testings AFTER the containment lift: i guess they want to slow down the second wave.

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sorry
the 'pwn the libs' party
and majority leader, geriatric diablo, lord of obstruction
can suck eggs if they want to cry about bipartisan obstruction
crisis or not
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Quote (chemoshots @ Mar 23 2020 04:43pm)
sorry
the 'pwn the libs' party
and majority leader, geriatric diablo, lord of obstruction
can suck eggs if they want to cry about bipartisan obstruction
crisis or not


Yeah I'm hating the give republicans what they want or you're failing the American people narrative that some of these a******'s trying to push.
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Mar 23 2020 02:49pm
This thing is getting huge, Ontario just shut down all non essential business and services. Looks like I'm at home for at minimum 3 weeks. It's about time. Let's just hope this all is effective.
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Quote (Skinned @ 23 Mar 2020 20:59)
Dems know the GOP isn't going to approved a bail out that loads up union shops and outfits or provide too direct benefits to American families in peril like just cutting checks.

They know what they need to do to secure the safety net and they're not doing it.

You can only trust these fuckers to solve problems in line with the interest of the capitalist class.


Quote (Helloween7 @ 23 Mar 2020 21:06)
It's funny because Trump could literally get re-elected by tackling the problem both with corporate bailouts/fed doing their things andhelping the plebs by giving them cash money but Republicans would never approve helping the poor and lower end of middle class.


Isnt the bolded exactly what the Trump administration and Senate Republicans are planning though? :huh:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/mcconnell-s-coronavirus-bill-devil-details-n1165166

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The proposal, expected to cost around $1 trillion, calls for direct payments on a tiered scale. Individuals making $75,000 based on a 2018 tax return would be eligible for $1,200 payments, or $2,400 for couples filing jointly. The payments would decrease for those making more than $75,000, with an income cap of $99,000 per individual or $198,000 for couples. The payments would also increase $500 for each child a person or couple has. However, taxpayers with little or no income tax liability but at least $2,500 of qualifying income would be eligible for only $600 or $1,200 for couples.


Now, we can of course debate whether it's fair to mirror income differences in these direct relief payments. But one can argue that low income persons will typically live in smaller houses, have smaller monthly rent or mortage payments, drive smaller cars, etc. Monthly expenses of poorer people can reasonably be expected to be lower, so if the goal of the government is to help everyone stay afloat and cover current expenses, a tiered system can make sense. I, personally, would prefer a flat sum or a less steeply tiered scheme....but nonetheless, your claims that the Republicans are not planning any help for the poor and lower class, or arent planning direct benefits, is demonstrably wrong.

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Quote (Goomshill @ 23 Mar 2020 15:39)
IceMage, you're free to come out of denial any time you want
https://www.dailywire.com/news/shock-dem-stock-coronavirus-package-with-green-new-deal-handouts-post-office-bailout-union-cash

Nancy Pelosi just revealed some of the text of her house bill.
Here are some of the wonderful provisions of her "cononavirus relief package" that was totally not designed to be a poison pill that's completely unpassable and serve no purpose but partisan obstructionism:

  • Strengthens bargaining powers for unions
  • Increases fuel emissions standards
  • Expansion of solar and wind tax credits
  • Bails out the US post office
  • Bails out student loans
  • Conducts "risk-limiting audits of results of elections"
  • Mandates national same-day voter registration
  • Mandates 15 days early voting and mail-out ballots to all Americans
  • Mandates pay equity that says gender, racial and ethnic minorities must receive the same pay at companies regardless of whether they perform the same work
  • Mandates that corporate boards must have forced diversity quotas for gender, race and ethnic identities on both the board and leadership and subcommittees
  • Expands child care and earned income tax credits that won't apply for a year


I've only had time to glance at the surface of the bill, it just came out. The compromise that senate republicans and democrats had struck was a bill narrowly crafted to apply to the immediate crisis at hand, a stimulus package of immediate relief now for Americans, small businesses, governments, the CDC and failing corporations. Pelosi's counterproposal isn't just an ideological wishlist, its a list of completely fucking unrelated bullshit that doesn't have any impact until 6-12 months from now. I'm pretty sure she unironically tucked anti-Hyde Amendment language in there somewhere just for spite.

You told us that Democrats are the only party left that governs and that they wouldn't hold up government function.


what the hell do any of these have to do with solving the issues at hand (people and entire industries put out of work due to the coronavirus, perhaps funding for the medical industry tasked with treating those who have the virus and those working on a vaccine)

what a pathetic bill put forward by a drunkard who married into money

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Quote (Skinned @ 23 Mar 2020 21:44)
Yeah I'm hating the give republicans what they want or you're failing the American people narrative that some of these a******'s trying to push.


No one would mind if the Democrats were negotiating in good faith, and insisted on reasonable provisions directly related to the coronavirus crisis. For example, they could insist that the planned direct cash payments (see my previous post) are less steeply tiered, and that they shall apply to all households (without a qualifying threshold income of $2500).

But when they instead demand items from their policy wishlist which are not related at all to the crisis at hand, like e.g. diversity quotas for boards, handouts to unions and abortion providers, limits on deportations or stricter carbon emission goals, you cannot possibly argue that their priority is immediate relief for struggling Americans.

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Mar 23 2020 03:09pm
so assuming congress has abdicated any responsibility to address the crisis, what state, local & federal options are left on the table?

Can state governments pass emergency powers giving them the ability to compel factories to re-open and produce ventilators?
or could Trump exert the biggest executive power play since Lincoln and use an executive order to do something like use the military for domestic healthcare, or just seize the power of the purse with some arbitrary loophole?
I can envision something ridiculous like "Allow small businesses to file lawsuits against the government for damages incurred by a failed federal coronavirus response, which will be automatically settled out of the judgment for an amount exactly equal to the payroll subsidies we intended to give them, with the 'settlement' conditioned on that money going to payroll". If Obama could use the judgment fund to conjured up funding for an Iran ransom, why not use that precedent? If blatant executive overreach is the only option left us, maybe Trump should do it
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