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#1741
Feb 26 2022 11:31pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 26 2022 09:15pm)
Or maybe reality is complicated and events spanning twenty years can't always be summarized by simple summaries the way I tend to do.



That's absolutely true. Reality is complicated, but goom isn't trying to come up with a nice write up. He writes a diatribe to support his pre-existing shitty opinion.

Go look up the Republican operative hires teenage prostitutes thread to see him type paragraphs to justify it instead of just saying, hiring teenage prostitutes is morally and legally wrong.
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Feb 26 2022 11:37pm
Chechnyan war criminal general and a top Chechnyan putin loyalist killed outside Kiev.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3414341-russian-invasion-update-ukrainian-military-destroy-kadyrov-forces-unit-near-hostomel.html

Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2022 12:26am)
Yanukovych was the lawfully elected president and enacting policies he views as being in the best interests of Ukraine. I said even at the time years ago that its simply a rational cynical choice. Russia is more willing to act in Ukraine, the west is not willing. Even if a Ukrainian would prefer the ideals of the west to that of Russia, its not a pragmatic choice to throw your country's future in with western powers that won't lift a finger to help you when Russia reclaims their sphere of influence. They were never given a choice between becoming a full NATO democracy EU member state versus becoming a Russian vassal state. Even when they briefly aligned with the US, we just replaced the oligarchs pilfering their national resources with profiteers from the CIA and state department, literally Joe Biden's crackhead son lmao. Put yourself into the shoes of someone like Yanukovych, with Russia putting pressure on you and demanding you go against a populist pro-EU movement and reject the EU accord. Yanukovych knew that Germany had betrayed them to Putin and was going to remove their transit leverage by building a pipeline around Ukraine. He knew that NATO wouldn't defend them. He knew the west was corrupt and cynical like Russia, just less vested in his country.
Here we are and its coming true with a vengeance. What's the west's great benevolent message for Ukrainians? They can have our thoughts and prayers while we tell them to draft child soldiers to throw molotov cocktails at T90s in the name of 'democracy'. Hypocritical self righteous destruction. Another shipment of America's number one export to the conflict zones of the world.


They have more t72s than t90s and the Ukrainian t64s that are modernized are actually better. Javelins are chewing them up.

Also hard to run them tanks with no gas: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326282/

This is not going well for the Russians atm.

Going in day 4 and no cities have fallen no objectives achieved.

They should go home.

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Feb 26 2022 11:45pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 26 2022 11:37pm)
Chechnyan war criminal general and top Chechnyan putin loyalist killed outside Kiev
They have more t72s than t90s and the Ukrainian t64s that are modernized are actually better. Javelins are chewing them up.
Also hard to run them tanks with no gas: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326282/
This is not going well for the Russians atm.
Going in day 4 and no cities have fallen no objectives achieved.


Do you really think Ukraine is going to win this war?
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Feb 26 2022 11:48pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2022 12:45am)
Do you really think Ukraine is going to win this war?


I love watching its citizens bear arms against a tyrannical government. Depends on world response. At best Russia created an Afghanistan on their border with a wide open corridor for anyone who wants to fight Russian soldiers with the support of the population and well funded powers endorsing it. This will do the opposite of addressing Russia's security measures and make them more insecure, and hurt Russian citizens to the Nth degree. They're being expelled from SWIFT now.

If Putin murders Zelensky a lot of the world will react strongly and call for his head. Putin is hiding in a bunker from his own people and sending conscripts to murder their neighbors.

This move makes me wonder if putin has cancer or something.

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Feb 27 2022 12:00am
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 26 2022 11:48pm)
I love watching its citizens bear arms against a tyrannical government. Depends on world response. At best Russia created an Afghanistan on their border with a wide open corridor for anyone who wants to fight Russian soldiers with the support of the population and well funded powers endorsing it. This will do the opposite of addressing Russia's security measures.


If we're a few years in the future and Russian troops are bleeding out holding the war-torn, blasted ruins of former population centers reduced to rubble as guerillas fight a bitter last stand to kill one Russian for every hundred dead Ukrainians, if Zelensky has been executed after a show trial and the west is funneling stingers to the surviving Taliban-esque resistance, if all their infrastructure is destroyed and refugees have flooded Poland and Hungary and are filtering into the western EU, will that be a great victory for western democracy?

You know what the idealists standing up for freedom at Tiannamen Square, the barricades of the June Rebellion, the slave armies of Spartacus, the populists flooding Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring and the monks of the Tibetan Uprising all have in common? Maybe if Mel Gibson had shouted 'freedom' a little louder, God would have gone back in time and listened.

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Feb 27 2022 12:16am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2022 01:00am)
If we're a few years in the future and Russian troops are bleeding out holding the war-torn, blasted ruins of former population centers reduced to rubble as guerillas fight a bitter last stand to kill one Russian for every hundred dead Ukrainians, if Zelensky has been executed after a show trial and the west is funneling stingers to the surviving Taliban-esque resistance, if all their infrastructure is destroyed and refugees have flooded Poland and Hungary and are filtering into the western EU, will that be a great victory for western democracy?

You know what the idealists standing up for freedom at Tiannamen Square, the barricades of the June Rebellion, the slave armies of Spartacus, the populists flooding Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring and the monks of the Tibetan Uprising all have in common? Maybe if Mel Gibson had shouted 'freedom' a little louder, God would have gone back in time and listened.


Will it be a victory for Russia? They are the invaders. Finland and Sweden was threatened. You know Poland and the Baltics are next. If Ukraine joined NATO they would be secure. This invasion is a ringing endorsement of NATO. Anyone who doesn't join can see their fate now.

Putin did a lot of work on GDP to throw it away like this. His people will be in breadines.

Weird so many advocates for the Soviet Union on PaRD. Tuck the cuck endorsed Putin and the invasion too, said Putin never called him racist.

But Russia is swallowing a porcupine. Do you think they can win this? The war is only popular with Putin himself and the american right.

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Feb 27 2022 12:24am
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 27 2022 12:16am)
Will it be a victory for Russia? They are the invaders. Finland and Sweden was threatened. You know Poland and the Baltics are next. If Ukraine joined NATO they would be secure. This invasion is a ringing endorsement of NATO. Anyone who doesn't join can see their fate now.


Its not a zero sum game. Russia's loss isn't our advantage. I could care less about the fate of the rest of the world beyond America's stake in it. Their self-interest only matters insofar as it affects our own. The bleeding hearts cried for the Afghan babies being shocked and awed, I said 'graveyard of empires'. And I tell ya 'hwat, another cold war with Russia isn't in our interests while China cackles gleefully and India and the Mideast side against us. NATO is going to be a lot lonelier.
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#1748
Feb 27 2022 01:15am
There's a rumor going on, hopefully it is true, ukrainian special forces with their alpha group killed almost all checken muslim terrorists attacking the hostomel airport, near kiev. among the dead is the second in command of kadarov.

today is a better day.
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#1749
Feb 27 2022 01:48am
for the dumbos that said zelensky never said for his civilians to stay in doors or they will be considered russian saboteurs, yesterday vitali klitschko said the same - mayor of Kiew. today the governor of harkov said the same.

dumbos, keep being dumbos.
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#1750
Feb 27 2022 01:51am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2022 05:45am)
Do you really think Ukraine is going to win this war?


If the sactions have the desired effect, Russia won't be able to be in a war for more than a few months, max. That creates so many opportunities for an insurgency after Zelenskyy is dispatched in a few days

So yes, the Ukrainians will win, just not in the first phase
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