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Quote (Budgeting @ Aug 24 2020 10:16am)
back tracking and deflecting? that is literally the MO of drump supporters. dont forget deflecting and lying.

there was obvious collusion. the counterintelligence report explicitly lays it out.

again I ask you - why would a campaign manager for a presidential nominee be sharing information or working with a russian intelligence officer with direct ties to putin? is russia your best friend now??? go move there see what its like.


Ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens to your brain if you watch Rachel Maddow for too long.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens to your brain if you watch Rachel Maddow for too long.


look, no matter how many accounts you jump on to defend yourself, you still havent answered the question.


why would any campaign manager for a prseidential nominee be sharing any type of information or be working with a russian intelligence officer with direct ties to putin?? Russia, who is an american adversary and was kicked out of the G8 for invading the ukraine - an ally country to the US.
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I got bad news for you :(.

Although maybe they can discover enough heavily favoured biden boxs with our trusty mail in voting.
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Aug 25 2020 02:27pm
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Interesting to see that they chose the national average for their comparison, and not an average of top battlegrounds. When looking specifically at battlegrounds, RCP actually shows an advantage for Trump vis-a-vis 2016.
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Interesting to see that they chose the national average for their comparison, and not an average of top battlegrounds. When looking specifically at battlegrounds, RCP actually shows an advantage for Trump vis-a-vis 2016.


This is great tbh. Let them get complacent similar to 2016. Meanwhile Republicans can use these same graphics to spam and raise alarm bells and mobilize.
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Aug 25 2020 02:37pm
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Interesting to see that they chose the national average for their comparison, and not an average of top battlegrounds. When looking specifically at battlegrounds, RCP actually shows an advantage for Trump vis-a-vis 2016.


Probably b/c the concept of a "battleground" changes each election. I'm not too sure. Either way, you could look at the polling data of each state.

I don't think the aforementioned diagram really does much outside of highlighting that this election is different. Clinton had some really interesting polling swings whereas Biden has been remarkably consistent.
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Aug 25 2020 02:39pm
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Interesting to see that they chose the national average for their comparison, and not an average of top battlegrounds. When looking specifically at battlegrounds, RCP actually shows an advantage for Trump vis-a-vis 2016.


Exactly. They use a similar methodology to the gender pay gap where they compare all women to all men, without accounting for the key factors.
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Probably b/c the concept of a "battleground" changes each election. I'm not too sure. Either way, you could look at the polling data of each state.

I don't think the aforementioned diagram really does much outside of highlighting that this election is different. Clinton had some really interesting polling swings whereas Biden has been remarkably consistent.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Top Battlegrounds (2020 vs. 2016): Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona

I think it's an interesting narrative to watch. The concern from Biden's perspective is whether or not he's picking up support inordinately in areas where he's already guaranteed to win. If Trump does win, it's almost certain that he will lose the popular vote, and probably by a much wider margin than last time around.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Top Battlegrounds (2020 vs. 2016): Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona

I think it's an interesting narrative to watch. The concern from Biden's perspective is whether or not he's picking up support inordinately in areas where he's already guaranteed to win. If Trump does win, it's almost certain that he will lose the popular vote, and probably by a much wider margin than last time around.


Definitely. I'd be absolutely shocked in Trump won the popular vote. I just can't see that happening, period. One thing that's been getting a lot of attention in the polling community is weighing for education. It appears that a lot of the high-school only and below white vote was underrepresented in the 2016 which contributed to polling error in swing states. Many pollsters now account for this so it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. Regardless, Biden needs to be concerned due to the GOP electoral advantage. If Trump can pull off FL, AZ, and PA, he wins. That's a very real possibility.
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