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Mar 19 2018 03:01pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 19 2018 04:00pm)
I'm definitely very curious at what the political and socio-economical landscape will look like post-boomer.


You mean what will the scorched-earth look like?

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Mar 19 2018 03:05pm
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We can get back to that after the Boomers die off. They are way too egocentric and they've controlled the political system from the 1970s to 2018. Every major issue facing the United States has been the issue facing the Baby Boomers. Generation X and Generation Y aren't even going to get a chance due to being crushed under their yoke. It's funny that presidents have just been getting older and older as the Boomers have aged. Last election was between two geriatric candidates.

Before they die they're going to completely crush our human service system in America.


Most problems we face today were definitely created when the boomers were around. Its easy to blame them but at the same time they didnt have our hindsight

Fortunately the solutions are easy... if we can accept them. And were better off than countries like japan and sweden

I think the age of pres candidates is just a fluke in recent years personally
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Mar 19 2018 03:08pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 19 2018 09:01pm)
You mean what will the scorched-earth look like?


A little too pessimistic for me. I have some hope left ;)

I know plenty of boomers who are very compassionate towards younger people, and who are very realistic in admitting the differences in challenges young people face. How much harder it is to buy a home or support a family.

When the minimum wage here was set it was set at the point where one wage earner could support a family on it (in 1968). Which is no longer realistic at all.

Also, Obama was relatively young when he was elected right?

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Mar 20 2018 04:49am
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2018/03/18/a-shutdown-this-week-because-of-trump-definitely-possible/#3c544414612e

Another Trump/GOP government failure? Seems like they would want to avoid that, but as the article reports accurately, Trump's behavior is so erratic and unreliable that he could completely shit the bed yet again.
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Mar 20 2018 06:37am
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2018/03/18/a-shutdown-this-week-because-of-trump-definitely-possible/#3c544414612e

Another Trump/GOP government failure? Seems like they would want to avoid that, but as the article reports accurately, Trump's behavior is so erratic and unreliable that he could completely shit the bed yet again.


The last shutdown hurt the Dems, they only lasted 3 days. I doubt this will be different
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Mar 21 2018 03:49am
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/taibbi-russiagate-trump-putin-mueller-and-targeting-dissent-w517486

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Two years ago, remember, the American political establishment was on the ropes. Donald Trump, a race-baiting game show host who'd run for office as a publicity stunt, was galloping to the Republican nomination in a rout. He got 14 million primary votes; the Republicans' chosen $100 million man, Jeb Bush, got 286,000. On the Democratic side, the overwhelming party favorite, Hillary Clinton, was fighting to hold off a Corbynite socialist with little money and even less institutional support.

From Trump to Bernie Sanders to Brexit to Catalonia, voter repudiation of the status quo was the story of the day. The sense of panic among political elites was palpable. The possibility that voters might decide to break up the EU, or put a Trump, Corbyn, or Sanders into power, led to a spate of "Do we have too much democracy?" essays by prominent think tankers and national press figures.

Two years later, the narrative has completely shifted. By an extraordinary coincidence, virtually all the "anti-system" movements and candidates that so terrified the political establishment two years ago have since been identified as covert or overt Russian destabilization initiatives, puppeteered from afar by the diabolical anti-Western dictator, Vladimir von Putin-Evil.

Since Trump's election, we've been told Putin was all or partly behind the lot of it: the Catalan independence movement, the Sanders campaign, Brexit, Jill Stein's Green Party run, Black Lives Matter, the resignations of intra-party Trump critics Bob Corker and Jeff Flake, Sean Hannity's broadcasts, and, of course, the election of Trump himself.

We've jumped straight past debating the efficacy of democracy to just reflexively identifying most anti-establishment sentiment as illegitimate, treasonous, and foreign in nature.
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Mar 21 2018 04:31am
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Eh, how about applying some common sense? This article reads just like the fearmongering against Russians, but this rails against the MSM/Dems.

- We know that foreign governments are actively trying to influence politics. This has been the standard in the modern age. Our own PVV is being sponsored with American political activist money. Noone really should try to argue this, and it's good to be aware of this.
- Hillary didn't lose because of Russian interference alone. It might have contributed a bit, but she lost by a fair amount. She campaigned on the wrong issues and lost.

How you would want to reduce foreign state actors influencing your politics (and especially elections) without tarnishing the freedom of press is difficult, and becoming more difficult as social networks gain more importance. Personally, I think there should be a large portion of education dedicated to critical thinking, exposing your own biases, etc. Maybe also have nationwide awareness campaigns on how filterbubbles can affect people.
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Article is derp. Mostly strawmen and hyperbole.

These anti-establishment liberals will oppose any mainstream narrative that unites both sides, even if the evidence is plain as day. They are the real snowflakes.

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Mar 21 2018 07:02am
Although there is honestly a growing trend of fascism in the world ie: russia china pdrnk etc
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