i guess that's why homicide / mass shooting rates are so high in the rest of the civilised world and so low in america - we just don't have the guns to "save" us. OH WAIT...

i bet you got that idiotic and countless times debunked little talking point from some pro gun organisation's pamphlet / website and never even questioned it, right?

https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/15/defensive-gun-use/
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-guns-self-defense-charleston-20150619-story.html
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/reports/2017/10/05/440373/myth-vs-fact-debunking-gun-lobbys-favorite-talking-points/
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearm-researcher-surveys/

facts don't care about your feelings and they don't care about your silly propaganda either.

it's one thing to think that your almost unrestricted access to guns is worth the countless downsides - i strongly disagree, but if a majority of americans actually WANTED to sacrifice their family members for their unregulated gun access (which is unsurprisingly NOT the case), that would just be their opinion and decision, and that's that.
however, to act like guns are actually beneficial for your overall safety is either incredibly dishonest, or simply ignorant and borderline moronic, given how obviously wrong that claim is...

God damn this guy really wants to be shot

nothing there refutes it

well, i guess that settles the "incredibly dishonest or borderline moronic" question. take care, buddy.

try again next time when you can refute it, posting links without argument doesn't work

pure bliss. there was no need for further confirmation but i appreciate the honesty, mate.

WHAHA, Let's weapon up to the teaths, give your kids an extra gun as well to protect themselves in school, if the gun won't save you, use the grenades son !
Great start of the day, tnx


Nukes create peace, lets give everybody nukes.. There you go NK, make this world a better place.

Basically if you claim something vaguely and silly, you'd be the one to prove it. Not the other way around.

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I'll see that as failing to discuss..
/e 57 btw

This post was edited by Knoppie on Feb 18 2018 05:38am

why the multi?