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Feb 12 2018 05:56pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 12 2018 04:54pm)
The legitimacy of the 'silencing' was already explained to you in clear language.

Your ignorance about free speech and what it entails turned the issue into a discussion about that.


So you are generally in favor of authoritarians interpreting rules of order to silence dissent.

You're not an anarchist.
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Feb 12 2018 06:13pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 12 2018 06:56pm)
l2r, cletus.


another wimpy inapplicable response.

You tried to paint something as a deflection when the topic was directly talked about and you were the one cowering from debating it on merit.

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So you are generally in favor of authoritarians interpreting rules of order to silence dissent.

You're not an anarchist.

Recognizing that someone directly explained why a specific case of someone interrupting a hearing was inappropriate is not being generally in favor of authoritarians doing anything.

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the whole "reading out campaign donations are 'personal comments' and therefore have to be silenced" narrative is a bs excuse to protect your corrupt politicians, you fake libertarian hack. no, the real reason for this going off topic is a desperate deflection attempt...

Sad. Getting triggered and repeating your unintelligent claims of fake libertarian is not an argument, its just pathetic. Your poor character is showing.

Having some basic rules for a hearing about a bill is not a 'BS excuse to protect corrupt politicians'. Its a common sense rule of order.
Its simply not an open forum to talk about and castigate whoever you want. It would be a mess if business was handled like that.

You uncritically buying into left wing propaganda and simply claiming its true regardless of facts presented to you is not a sound and intellectually justifiable position or rebuttal.

No one is deflecting except you.
You and plague tried to make this about speech and rights and silencing being inappropriate.
Shocker someone contested the claims and discussed the issue tied to whether silencing her is a appropriate or not.
discussing the topic and you carrying on like a baby when you dont like what you hear is not a deflection.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 12 2018 06:14pm
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 13 2018 11:13am)
another wimpy inapplicable response.

You tried to paint something as a deflection when the topic was directly talked about and you were the one cowering from debating it on merit.


Recognizing that someone directly explained why a specific case of someone interrupting a hearing was inappropriate is not being generally in favor of authoritarians doing anything.


Sad. Getting triggered and repeating your unintelligent claims of fake libertarian is not an argument, its just pathetic. Your poor character is showing.

Having some basic rules for a hearing about a bill is not a 'BS excuse to protect corrupt politicians'. Its a common sense rule of order.
Its simply not an open forum to talk about and castigate whoever you want. It would be a mess if business was handled like that.

You uncritically buying into left wing propaganda and simply claiming its true regardless of facts presented to you is not a sound and intellectually justifiable position or rebuttal.

No one is deflecting except you.
You and plague tried to make this about rights and silencing being inappropriate.
Shocker someone contested the claims and discussed the issue tied to whether silencing her is a appropriate or not.
discussing the topic and you carrying on like a baby when you dont like what you hear is not a deflection.


If you are talking on the subject of corruption would not the fact that specific people who are voting on the legislation received donations from the beneficiaries of that policy be not only relevant but also crucial information?
Saying "Well you can't name people who are corrupt or we will throw you out" is just not good enough.
And you have shown that you are just another big business and big government shill again and again, the A in your avatar stands for "AUTHORITY".
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 13 2018 11:13am)

Recognizing that someone directly explained why a specific case of someone interrupting a hearing was inappropriate is not being generally in favor of authoritarians doing anything.


She did not interrupt the hearing she was given a minute and 45 seconds to talk..
More lies from the corporate shill.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Feb 12 2018 06:21pm
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Feb 12 2018 06:18pm
heinrich’s attempt to make “cletus” work is as laughable as his rage essays.

i single-handedly turned this sauerkraut freebasing voyeur from dresden into a meme. and his futile attempts to regain some absurd notion of legitimacy on this forum only furthered my work with each and every one of his disturbing, out-of-touch rants :rofl:

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Feb 12 2018 06:19pm
Looks like all clinton had to do was add a rule to empeachment proceedings that you could not name the accused and he could have avoided all that nonsense :rofl:
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Feb 12 2018 06:25pm
Your oft-repeated personal attacks and whining in lieu of an argument or any sense of decency are great examples of why rules like this are put in place.
You aren't a constructive poster and derail many discussions.

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If you are talking on the subject of corruption would not the fact that specific people who are voting on the legislation received donations from the beneficiaries of that policy be not only relevant but also crucial information?
Saying "Well you can't name people who are corrupt or we will throw you out" is just not good enough.
And you have shown that you are just another big business and big government shill again and again, the A in your avatar stands for "AUTHORITY".


Really tired of ignorant low IQ autists attacking me personally when they dont like a position i hold.
Debate the issues on merit. Which interestingly enough is at the heart of the issue. They wanted a hearing to debate merit, not personally attacking people for measly donations.
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Feb 12 2018 06:36pm
I want to abolish government, but dont think some rules of order existing are an evil meritless plot to protect corrupt politicians = im a big government shill

i oppose eminent domain and abhor special benefits for big businesses = shill for big business

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Feb 12 2018 06:37pm
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Your oft-repeated personal attacks and whining in lieu of an argument or any sense of decency are great examples of why rules like this are put in place.
You aren't a constructive poster and derail many discussions.



Really tired of ignorant low IQ autists attacking me personally when they dont like a position i hold.
Debate the issues on merit. Which interestingly enough is at the heart of the issue. They wanted a hearing to debate merit, not personally attacking people for measly donations.


Lol.

Hard not to like a position you hold bud when your positions are so mercurial. Who knows what your positions really are? These chaps aren't trying to attack you on your ideology. They're attacking you on your ideological integrity.

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Feb 12 2018 06:39pm
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Lol.

Hard not to like a position you hold bud when your positions are so mercurial. These chaps aren't trying to attack you on your ideology. They're attacking you on your ideological integrity.


They actually just strawman and troll.
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Feb 12 2018 06:42pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 13 Feb 2018 01:13)
another wimpy inapplicable response.

You tried to paint something as a deflection when the topic was directly talked about and you were the one cowering from debating it on merit.


Recognizing that someone directly explained why a specific case of someone interrupting a hearing was inappropriate is not being generally in favor of authoritarians doing anything.


Sad. Getting triggered and repeating your unintelligent claims of fake libertarian is not an argument, its just pathetic. Your poor character is showing.

Having some basic rules for a hearing about a bill is not a 'BS excuse to protect corrupt politicians'. Its a common sense rule of order.
Its simply not an open forum to talk about and castigate whoever you want. It would be a mess if business was handled like that.

You uncritically buying into left wing propaganda and simply claiming its true regardless of facts presented to you is not a sound and intellectually justifiable position or rebuttal.

No one is deflecting except you.
You and plague tried to make this about speech and rights and silencing being inappropriate.
Shocker someone contested the claims and discussed the issue tied to whether silencing her is a appropriate or not.
discussing the topic and you carrying on like a baby when you dont like what you hear is not a deflection.


you can spin until you're dizzy, hack - but that won't hide the fact that you're all-in on rationalising the silencing of someone who tried to expose yet another case of corporate owned politicians violating the very rights you claim to value so highly.
label yourself what you want, but what it comes down to is that you're just another desperate shill obediently protecting their masters. but hey, at least you have some bumper sticker slogans you can fall back on in order to delude yourself into thinking you're somehow different. pathetic...
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