I've decided raising the minimum wage at a point creates a sort of economic gentrification. Instead of housing prices going up the price of a job goes up. Jobs are not free and if an employer can't afford to hire someone they wont.

Cambo, what would you suggest we do to promote income equality?

I say stop trying to promote it at all, income equality is impossible.

Agreed, the goal should be for the lowest income people to have an acceptable income for quality of life. That there are rich people isn't a problem, that there are poor people is.

I Think The fellows looking for pictures are right this probably isn't the right venue
I realize that we will continue to bash heads on this forever,
I apologize for the name calling that was uncalled for and I'm embarrassed that it happened.
I just became too passionate but that's not an excuse.
I'll leave the conversation here but maybe a relevant topic will spring up ^^!

can you just shut the fuck up already, literally zero people care especially in this thread

This post was edited by Clicquot on Mar 19 2015 10:45am

oh someone yelled at me on the internet ...sniff

i like how you cry about jack boot thugs taking someone's money at gun point to support those less fortunate, but do a complete 180 on the topic if that money is going towards subsidizing employment costs in the private sector

and you'd do yet another 180 if we turned the topic towards the public sector~

This post was edited by duffman316 on Mar 19 2015 11:37am

Target left Canada being unable to deal with better employee conditions. You think anyone here give a fuk over here?

Employees will be hired by next competent owner, customers will buy in Walmart.

Also that Target logo was a pain to see from the highway.

Where do you see this? Nowhere.
Welfare payments to employees are not subsidies to walmart. Its a subsidy to the workers.
If it was a subsidy to walmart, why not call for it to be stopped? Then they would pay their employers more right? Do you really think thats what is holding down wages? No.
In reality there would be downward pressure on wages as more labor floods into the market, not an immediate spike.

I pointed out the very relevant fact that walmart is alleviating poverty and alleviating the welfare situation, while you pretend a walmart job means welfare when it actually means less welfare.
Its not walmart's fault that someone is trying to raise a family on entry level wages, possibly part-time, and qualifies for welfare.
Its ridiculous to penalize businesses for not having large wages for unskilled work. You will just kill the jobs and put people who really need the job out of work.

How high should their wages be before you will stop calling for the jobs of poor minorities?


Income equality isn't my concern, nor is that a noble goal when we look into what that actually entails and would be like.
I want to raise everyone's standard of living, not bludgeon the rich to equal them out.

There are steps I would take like stopping certain subsidies and tariffs and knocking out some regulations that make it harder and more expensive for anyone to compete with major companies.
Pro-market reforms that encourage investment, competition and the productivity gains that comes with it that will drive up wages for valid reasons.
These would have the effect of evening it out a bit.

i'm not demanding higher wages for them, i'm demanding that my tax dollars not be spent helping them bridge a gap that walmart is too greedy/stingy to bridge themselves

take away the assistance we give them and let walmart either pay the full cost of keeping those workers or let them get rid of them all and hire cheaper people who will do the work for the low salary walmart provides without any assistance from myself the tax payer - win win right? walmart doesn't have to pay their employees more and my taxes are no longer wasted on those people who can't get by on a walmart salary