Quote (SenorNZ @ Dec 2 2020 04:23pm)

Where? Not a single reference.

https://www.iso.org/committee/291088.html

Start with the iso standards, they have literature attached to them.

Or even start with the highest cited review which shows they are effective for community, healthcare and infected patients, both well and sick.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/

You are literally talking shit, there's a huge amount of evidence supporting masks, and a few poorly designed and controlled studies opposing. The body of evidence is overwhelming on the side of masks being effective.

Educate yourself before bleating.

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 3 2020 01:29pm)

from a medical journal i already posted
its not that I am not providing the dats the problem is you wont find it on purpose
TheNEW ENGLAND JOURNALofMEDICINE
May 21, 2020
Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 EraMichael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?articleTools=true

page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")

page 2 last paragraph
"Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care "
(talisman? in other words its a magical device)


a mask that doesnt work even if it wasnt a scam

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 3 2020 01:35pm)

you people never read your own stuff much less any body elses stuff

"Medical masks were not effective, and cloth masks even less effective. When used by sick patients randomised controlled trials suggested protection of well contacts."

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 3 2020 01:38pm)

you dont read any of it do you? you just found a title that looked cool and post and brag

Quote (SenorNZ @ Dec 2 2020 04:40pm)

Lol you don't even know how literature works. I have you a source of regulatory research with a while body of literature attached to it and a review using meta analysis of the entire body of evidence. Not a single study cherry picked to represent the entire body of evidence.

As you seem to be unaware of how scientific literature works, let me break it down for you. There will always be opposing publications, as not every piece of research is conducted with good methods or large enough samples sizes. When you look at the whole body of evidence however there is, in this case, an overwhelming majority supporting masks and effective.



Read the paper genius. The methods described why a certain group was found ineffective. I assume you can read?



It's a fucking review genius. It's not cherry picked and exactly the reason I posted it instead of the source studies. You are so clueless.

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 3 2020 01:44pm)

your just on "tuneout"

Sweden - No Lockdowns, No Masks, No Insanity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnmTDPF8Tgk

Quote (SenorNZ @ Dec 2 2020 04:45pm)

Just about to tip over 100k cases and 5k daily cases. You are a moron.

Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 3 2020 01:48pm)

cases cases cases fearmongering you with cases "CASES" its how stupid its all gotton

Quote (SenorNZ @ Dec 2 2020 04:52pm)

Once again it's not just about deaths, of you had read a single study about the damage cause by covid, in particular "long covid" in the lungs you would know this. You probably won't die, but you have a very high chance of irreversible organ damage.

Even if you completely ignore that, Americans I would assume want to travel outside of the US at some point, with your dumb fuck population rejecting masks because of some dumb fuck conspiracy theories, no one's is going to let you enter their country. You will continue to have local lockdowns and government control which you guys seem to hate so much, so do everyone a favour and wear your mask child.

Quote (SenorNZ @ Dec 2 2020 04:52pm)

Once again it's not just about deaths, of you had read a single study about the damage cause by covid, in particular "long covid" in the lungs you would know this. You probably won't die, but you have a very high chance of irreversible organ damage.

Even if you completely ignore that, Americans I would assume want to travel outside of the US at some point, with your dumb fuck population rejecting masks because of some dumb fuck conspiracy theories, no one's is going to let you enter their country. You will continue to have local lockdowns and government control which you guys seem to hate so much, so do everyone a favour and wear your mask child.