Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 26 2020 12:22pm)
Forcing outcomes through violence, theft & intimidation is a shitty way for good change to happen. That's more how the mob operates.The biggest shifts happened when people like MLK or Ghandi peacefully mobilized the masses and won souls over because the bystander saw how one side was pacifist and fighting for a good while the other wasn't. Here we don't have pacifism, we have people committing violence, stealing, destroying property based on narratives that are built on half truths.
The narrative of peaceful protest being successful is itself a half-truth. Yes, many leaders were non-violent, but other leaders weren't, and both played important parts. The final push for civil rights may well have never happened without the violent followups to MLK's marches.
The bus boycott got black people the right to sit in the front of the bus on paper, but it resulted in a violent backlash that resulted in them sitting in the back of the bus for their own safety and new laws that barred interactions between races, so effectively there wasn't a real material change in circumstance.
The real story is more complicated than "nonviolence is good and effective, and violence is bad and ineffective".
Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 26 2020 12:35pm)
Target: "Mostly peaceful protestors keep burning down our stores. Thank goodness insurance came through, let's try to squeeze another target in safe suburban community 'a' instead."
Ten years later Democrats are crying about food deserts.
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We need to address the underlying issue of poverty and crime in black communities. That's fundamentally the problem. Public sector unions and accountability are oxymorons, so there's work to be done, but the racial component has little to do with police and everything to do with their socio-economic circumstance.
It is impossible to separate police from race and socioeconomic circumstance.
The policies that resulted in worse socio-economic circumstance were enforced by the police as a direct continuation of the abuses that the police perpetrated on the civil rights marches and enforcement of Jim Crow.
Law enforcement is not something you can separate from the law, and socioeconomic circumstance is not something you can separate from laws.
This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 26 2020 11:45am