It's no surprise that you resort to ad hominem given your history of vicious attacks on this forum's members.

Your ideology wields virtually no power in this country.

Everyone else is unintelligent, you are the only smart one right?
Lol

I responded to you belittling libertarianism by mocking and attacking your positions in return.

I 'attack' people who attack me.
I have little patience for people who pretend disagreeing with them makes me a white nationalist and constantly attack me personally instead of making an argument for years on end.

I have consistently advocated and encouraged argument-based discussion and its clear there is little interest in that among some posters here.

When the subject is clearly white nationalism and you consistently defend it. Yea “years on end” I wonder why??

I didn't belittle libertarianism and I even complemented some of the principles behind it. You responded by flagrantly disobeying the NAP and you also attacked democracy.

I would argue holding one rigid stance for years on end without ever evolving or considering any opposing views to be a sign of average intelligence.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 3 2020 07:46pm

You riffed on a common trope that libertarians are kids who don't belong at the table of serious discussion.

I responded to that by sarcastically saying yeah the republicans and democrats are serious and competent, and gave examples of core libertarian positions that are sorely lacking from the status quo.

Ridiculing your post isn't a violation of the NAP and I sincerely believe democracy is garbage.
Democracy: the god that failed is a pretty interesting book.

The idea that my stances haven't changed is false and so is the idea that I haven't considered opposing views.
I do not have the 'luxury' of being a bubble leftist. Opposing political beliefs are the norm.
I did not just go along with whatever is popular.


A bulk of libertarian works I read are all about addressing opposing views. They do not settle with pretending everyone else is racist or evil.

I wasn't born a radical libertarian.
Through experiences and extensive reading I challenged, changed and developed my beliefs.
Its precisely because I am open to alternate views, and question and analyze popular/previous beliefs that I was able to become a libertarian.

Even after becoming a libertarian my views have changed. My understanding of various issues and priorities are much different than they were in the past.
I went from a minarchist to someone who fully supports the nonaggression principle as an ideal.

When someone like dro is off making youtube videos of himself singing Britney Spears songs, I am reading and listening to political/news podcasts, videos, books and articles.

When I arrive at certain conclusions or know certain points to be true, it is not a sign of 'average intelligence' or weakness to not abandon those views in the face of a few ignorant people disagreeing with me.
Especially when they do not make compelling arguments (or make no arguments at all).

This post was edited by cambovenzi on May 3 2020 08:19pm

The Mises remark came after you bombarded me with hateful, ignorant rhetoric. IMO, that's a pretty blatant disregard for the NAP.

As for democracy, I think it's important for people to determine what's good for them in a vacuum. That doesn't mean that democracy should be used for absolutely everything, but it's certainly a starting point. What would you replace democracy with? Obviously it depends on the country and culture, but for America, I think we'd benefit by removing the right to vote for individuals. Personality has too much influence in how people vote and I think it'd be better to vote for a "platform" instead.

I think voting should be limited to people with a tax file number.
If you are not working or paying tax you should not have a say.