Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 29 2019 06:16pm)

The alternative is creating a loophole where every woman can just find some jackhole doctor to cry wolf and pretend its an ectopic pregnancy for cases where it isnt true.

What if an ectopic pregnancy transplant is not only possible but in the same realm of safety as an abortion?

Quote (EndlessSky @ 30 Nov 2019 00:16)

The alternative is creating a loophole where every woman can just find some jackhole doctor to cry wolf and pretend its an ectopic pregnancy for cases where it isnt true.

What if an ectopic pregnancy transplant is not only possible but in the same realm of safety as an abortion?

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 29 2019 06:24pm)

You're still operating under the silly, unjustified and malicious premise that most women take abortions lightly and just look for legal loopholes to abuse them as a form of "sloppy-girl's contraception".

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 29 2019 06:24pm)

You're still operating under the silly, unjustified and malicious premise that most women take abortions lightly and just look for legal loopholes to abuse them as a form of "sloppy-girl's contraception".

Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 29 2019 05:16pm)

The alternative is creating a loophole where every woman can just find some jackhole doctor to cry wolf and pretend its an ectopic pregnancy for cases where it isnt true.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 29 2019 05:16pm)

What if an ectopic pregnancy transplant is not only possible but in the same realm of safety as an abortion?

Quote (Bazi @ Nov 29 2019 06:36pm)

You realize an ectopic pregnancy is not a subjective result but based on objective imaging ?



Why are you trying to legislate for procedures that don’t exist and are not standard of care at this time?


Why not propose some laws on brain transplants too

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Sec. 2904.35. A physician who does all of the following is
not subject to criminal prosecution, damages in any civil
action, or professional disciplinary action, for a violation of
this chapter:
(A) Using reasonable medical judgment, believes it is
highly probable that the pregnant woman will die from a certain
fatal condition before her unborn child is viable;
(B) Performs a surgery, before the unborn child is viable,
for the sole purpose of treating the pregnant woman's fatal
condition;
(C) Takes all possible steps to preserve the life of the
unborn child, while preserving the life of the woman. Such steps
include, if applicable, attempting to reimplant an ectopic
pregnancy into the woman's uterus.

Quote (Ghot @ 30 Nov 2019 00:46)

IMO, they are just trying to plug any possible future loopholes. Most laws attempt to do this. Not all are successful, and thereby cause problems down the road.


/e From a doctor's viewpoint it may look like... damned if I do, damned if I don't. But I really think it's better to TRY and make laws that don't have loopholes.

Quote (Ghot @ Nov 29 2019 05:46pm)

IMO, they are just trying to plug any possible future loopholes. Most laws attempt to do this. Not all are successful, and thereby cause problems down the road.


/e From a doctor's viewpoint it may look like... damned if I do, damned if I don't. But I really think it's better to TRY and make laws that don't have loopholes.

Quote (Bazi @ Nov 29 2019 06:54pm)

Medicine is not black and white.

Mandating life saving procedures be completely transitioned into experimental procedures, and if you do not obey you are prosecuted.

Oh wait but this will only apply 5 years from now in the event this is even possible.

Oh wait we are not trying to get attention or make headlines. tit for tat for lunacy continues but republicans take this round bob

Quote (Ghot @ Nov 29 2019 05:57pm)

I don't think it's to "go after doctors". I think it's more to prevent patient abuse of anti abortion laws.

/e In the case of transplant to uterus.... a defense attorney can just say..."at this time, that's NOT applicable. It looks to me like that entire section is to "protect doctors".