Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 27 2019 10:59am)

ghot argues ghot.

now write me a paragraph arguing yourself on what "all in all it sounds as if" means.

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 27 2019 10:00am)

You see anywhere...where I said He, could or could not be trusted? Didn't think so.

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 27 2019 11:24am)

as per usual, you get dunked on with blatant hypocrisy in your posts and you move on to low IQ semantics.

so it sounds as if they're ready, but you don't trust that they're ready, it just sounds like it?

"that sounds like a train coming down the tracks, i bet it's a herd of elephants tho"

sure grandpa, spin spin spin.

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 27 2019 10:29am)

You should really look into the reason you NEED me to always "take a side".
When I wish to "take a side" I do. I don't need your attempts to force me to take a side.

Whether or not the Finance Minister is lying... is an unknowable statistic. I thought I made that clear. I can use bigger letters next time, if that will aid in your understanding.

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 27 2019 11:33am)

more squirming. you're pro trump trade policy because you want China to get hurt enough to need to make a deal. then you posted an article where they claim they are ready, said all signs point to them being ready, and said they are blinking first, and that they are hurting more than us as a result of these trade policies.

then all i had to say is we can't trust them and you throw it all in the trash to act like everything you said existed on some inter-dimensional plane bereft of your clearly documented history of taking a side. spin some more yarn grandpa.

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 27 2019 09:46am)

the entire farm issue highlights tribalism. HRC basically calls coal miners collateral damage to her EPA standards, people rally around a group that's like 50k people to call out her callous behavior. Trump then calls farmers collateral damage to his policies and it's not a problem, people are willing to pump up subsidies, take tariff price hikes on the chin, and risk job loss in the farm sector. It's more about the source than anything, far more people are affected by farm job loss than coal mining job loss. and in both sectors increases in demand don't equate to jobs at a 1:1 ratio due to automated work processes. same as the effort to bring iron working jobs back has just resulted in larger production runs in existing plants rather than new plants or reopened plants.

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 27 2019 08:46am)

the entire farm issue highlights tribalism. HRC basically calls coal miners collateral damage to her EPA standards, people rally around a group that's like 50k people to call out her callous behavior. Trump then calls farmers collateral damage to his policies and it's not a problem, people are willing to pump up subsidies, take tariff price hikes on the chin, and risk job loss in the farm sector. It's more about the source than anything, far more people are affected by farm job loss than coal mining job loss. and in both sectors increases in demand don't equate to jobs at a 1:1 ratio due to automated work processes. same as the effort to bring iron working jobs back has just resulted in larger production runs in existing plants rather than new plants or reopened plants.

Quote (Goomshill @ 27 Aug 2019 18:17)

Hillary said we should abandon those sectors and drop them both short and long term and said she'd destroy them. Trump said he'd tried to protect them and reinvigorate those sectors, but fighting China means short-term damage in the hopes of long term stability, something he's trying to smooth over with bailouts. I don't think its reasonable to equate those two. Hillary never said that coal was facing collateral damage in a trade war designed to bring coal back, she said she wanted to 'retrain' coal employees to go write code wait tables

Quote (tagged4nothing @ 27 Aug 2019 23:54)

edit: i haven't read this in full yet, i'm doing so now. seems reasonable to place here though
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/02/07/family-of-farmers-what-trump-has-done-for-our-industry/

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Two committees in the U.S. House of Representatives subpoenaed Deutsche Bank in April to provide financial records belonging to the president and his children Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump.

Deutsche Bank’s filing, in the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, revealed that it had tax returns that it would need to hand over if it complied with the subpoenas, which the Trumps are seeking to block. It was not clear whose tax returns it had, because names were redacted from the filing.