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Jul 2 2019 07:37am
Quote (Beowulf @ 2 Jul 2019 13:33)
a lot of these guys are probably on test growth booze and coke and were angry before they started

you can find them fighting anywhere lol


Sure. But they fight on the side of the Nazis and have Nazis in their ranks. They aren't a group that promotes white supremacism specifically but mistaking that for any opposition to white supremacists would be naïve at best.
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Jul 2 2019 07:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ 2 Jul 2019 13:35)
you have a really hard time with nuance. ive said multiple times they have a BAD strain of violent guys that dont represent how it all started. is all. what's your response? "ive got a few pics to PROVE it maaaaaaan"

you're a meme. good luck re-developing into a coherent person.


Uhuh...

I mean this whole post is a total non sequitur but I'm the one being incoherent. Ok Sherlock.
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Jul 2 2019 07:39am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 2 Jul 2019 09:22)
Mass shooting inspired by candice owens(USA).


Quote (TransTankie @ 2 Jul 2019 09:32)
Partially probably. But likely a combination of various online personalities that funnelled tarrant into gradually more extreme communities.

Those fashy echochambers can be scary fucking places too. Having infiltrated several I can tell you there are more than a few more Tarrants to come. That's why one of our main focuses is pulling people out of them.


two pasty pale privileged lefty foreign voyeurs blaming a black woman in America for a shooting in New Zealand



stick to guzzling corporate oil for money and blaming corporations for everything, and hiding in your aristocratic ivory tower behind gated walls writing rage fantasy essays, respectively.

reported, btw
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Jul 2 2019 07:40am
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two pasty pale privileged lefty foreign voyeurs blaming a black woman in America for a shooting in New Zealand

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stick to guzzling corporate oil for money and blaming corporations for everything, and hiding in your aristocratic ivory tower behind gated walls writing rage fantasy essays, respectively.

reported, btw


@Snipa

Now this guy is what a meme looks like.

Literally 2 years telling the same joke.

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Jul 2 2019 07:42am
Quote (TransTankie @ Jul 2 2019 06:37am)
Sure. But they fight on the side of the Nazis and have Nazis in their ranks. They aren't a group that promotes white supremacism specifically but mistaking that for any opposition to white supremacists would be naïve at best.


these types of people go where the escalations and fights are and politics is where that is right now

they are generally unprincipled cavemen that are on a smorgasbord of product


Quote (TransTankie @ Jul 2 2019 06:32am)
Partially probably. But likely a combination of various online personalities that funnelled tarrant into gradually more extreme communities.

Those fashy echochambers can be scary fucking places too. Having infiltrated several I can tell you there are more than a few more Tarrants to come. That's why one of our main focuses is pulling people out of them.


How the hell did Candace Owens inspire it at all?

She's a boring opinion for hire and bland in the space of being provocative for attention

She's responsible for terrible content and embarrassing herself whenever intellectually pushed not a shooting
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Jul 2 2019 07:43am
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@Snipa

Now this guy is what a meme looks like.

Literally 2 years telling the same joke.


yes we all know you’re a joke. me referring your jokester tale and everyone laughing about it doesn’t necessarily make it a meme
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Jul 2 2019 07:44am
Quote (TransTankie @ Jul 2 2019 07:38am)
Uhuh...

I mean this whole post is a total non sequitur but I'm the one being incoherent. Ok Sherlock.



Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 2 2019 06:17am)
to add to what's been said i'd say there's a strain of the proud boys looking for a fight, literally. going to rallies hoping a spark sets off the tinder box.they started as escorts for conservative speakers, and a drinking buddy group before that (literally people proud to be boys, a humorous riff on "toxic masculinity"). Then Gavin was forced out and replaced by several slightly more militant members. Many chapters remain rather docile, but for high profile events such as ANTIFA protests in Portland, the baddies fill the ranks.

They still don't use weapons at the rate of ANTIFA imo. they're more about getting into bar fight type scraps (not that they can't still end in death or maiming). ANTIFA is more into the "war" bullshit. example: scaly's posts that are devolving on a weekly basis into rank lunacy.



Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 2 2019 06:41am)
i quite agree, it should have been a duffington post item, not a thread. but we get milkshaking threads and trans threads for mundane articles. maybe we need more catch-all threads. "the trans thread" etc.funny enough the OP started and antifascism thread then didnt post this in it.



1. i can try but if i repeat myself and you just tell me i havent read up enough again, what then? its happened 5 or 6 times now so ill just head it off.

2. they started out as a joke, i was listening to Gavin's show the day it all started lol. it was just a joke, including the fight stuff. then it got WAY too serious, thanks to gavin weaponizing the drinking group to usher conservative speakers into events. that was the change that actually turned the "get into a fight" thing from a joke to reality. as well as the chapters beginning to self actualize and not take direction from Gavin, who as he admits lost control early and never got any semblance of it back.

3. Gavin is a dark humorist, but i can see why his specific brand of humor would be impossible for you to even accept as humor. you'll label it all violence and hate speech, im sure. pulling an unironic fender and claiming it's "not funny" even though hundreds of thousands or millions laughed and then claim he's only covering hate with his humor.

4. i dont bother to point out much in your posts these days for 2 reasons, a.) you're as predictable as old faithful, i can read your posts on the back of any antifa pamphlet. you're a bore b.) you've reached the level of extremism that you'd label others as worthy of deplatforming, i think people should treat you the same. you should be converted into nothing more than the psycho who screams on the bus while people act like nothing's happening. you're Bilbo-Baggins, you're RUSSLABANK, you're an unironic far more extreme Ink, you're..... a joke. a shell. the husk left over from the crab with newly grown but dull pincers. you are no longer someone worth engaging on a regular basis, and u used to be someone worth talking to. you're the flat earther of PARD, snarkily responding that anyone who disagrees simply is misinformed. which honestly of all your numerous faults might be the actual worst.


all because you dont know how to say things correctly, specifically:

Quote (TransTankie @ Jul 2 2019 06:31am)
Feel free to point out what you disagree with... The rest of your post basically supports what I e been saying. Even if it is pretty inaccurate. The proud Boys were violent from the start. Gavin 'choke a tranny' McInnes has been pushing it from day one and getting in a fight is literally required to be considered a member.

Gavin also wasn't'forced out'. He took a step back to avoid conspiracy charges after several boys were arrested for planning violence last year. He only did so publicly though. He's still very much involved.


and again i said:

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3. Gavin is a dark humorist, but i can see why his specific brand of humor would be impossible for you to even accept as humor. you'll label it all violence and hate speech, im sure. pulling an unironic fender and claiming it's "not funny" even though hundreds of thousands or millions laughed and then claim he's only covering hate with his humor.


im tracking the conversation post by post on topic. you're skipping half my posts like the coward you are then snarkily handing out one liners while dropping topics like flies. go ahead and tell me about all of the batteries you hucked at nazis from a safe distance to prove you're not a coward lmao.

somewhere deep down i hope you read the posts of people who used to actively engage with you and you realize you're a sick version of the person they used to enjoy speaking to. you're a bum on a subway socially. good luck recruiting anything but fuckboi neckbeards with who you are.

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Jul 2 2019 08:34am
So the site went down for a bit but it gave me time to hit up some buddies and the info on old guy has been compiled.

His name is John Blum. He's a member of Patriot Prayer - a group that used to be in bed with white nationalists but pushed them out after Charlottesville. They like to attack antifa members and currently have a competition goiong to see who can claim the most facemasks from antifa members.

Here is John Blum with his collapsible baton approaching antifa -



Various claims have been made about him and his fellow 'patriot' Adam Kelly (the big ginger bearded dude) chasing a gay dude down the street with his baton and antifa defending the guy from these assholes. I can't confirm these but it is the story that people who were there are reporting.

What we do have is a video of him approaching antifa members and swinging the baton at them at 0:16

https://mobile.twitter.com/Johnnthelefty/status/1145576694339653632

Seems to be part of an ongoing brawl. Them chasing the gay guy coulda started it but fuck knows tbh.


Pretty standard fash MO tbh. Attack antifa. Get royally disabused of the notion that they're all soyboy pussies and receive a beatdown. Try to paint themselves as victims on social media.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

One thing is for sure though - John Blum is not an innocent bystander. He is there to start fights with antifa.

So for all you asking for a video of him swinging at someone else - here it is. I'll accept your apologies now.

This post was edited by TransTankie on Jul 2 2019 08:35am
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Jul 2 2019 08:42am
Quote from a friend in the Portland antifa
'He snuck up on our guy and hit him from behind with the baton. We maced him and backed up telling him to back off but he kept coming at us. He grabbed one of our guys and we hit him in the legs telling him to let go. He kept fighting so he got bloodied.'

Also I have to make a mea culpa - I said earlier in the thread that Portland police who spread the concrete milkshake myth during the Portland rally had links to the proud boys. I misremembered. They have links to patriot prayer and have been caught passing information to them about antifa and telling them they could arrest patriot members but they're not going to. There was a guardian article on it back in february I think. Different violent far-right group but same thing. My bad.
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Jul 2 2019 08:46am
https://mobile.twitter.com/Johnnthelefty/status/1145864149588561921
Another video earlier in the day where a lady can be heard saying something about 'threatening us' and a random dude can be heard telling John to 'put the weapon away'.

This post was edited by TransTankie on Jul 2 2019 08:47am
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