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Sep 7 2018 10:10am
Quote (Ghot @ Sep 7 2018 11:11am)
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Even if a high or low level did actually leak all this...it doesn't necessarily mean it's true. There ARE these things called... lies.

Like the Omarosa fiasco with her many, many more tapes.


goalposts moving again:

>it's on op ed LOL, obviously fake news/made up by NYT
>okay, it was a real west wing official/staffer, but it's completely made up/all lies

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 7 2018 03:25am)
its a really slippery slope though. its probably a good thing if aides and senior officials prevent a (politically) inexperienced and impulsive president from making horrible decisions. but on the other hand, he has the mandate from the people who elected him into the office, and he is the one who should usually make the final decision. if his staffers intervene all the time and/or in "borderline cases", that's really undermining democracy and thus a very bad thing. if they intervene at all, they should only do it in clear-cut cases.

edit: fixed two typos...


you just contradicted yourself in your own post essentially, it sounds like you're undecided, which if I were a die hard republican, I too would be conflicted.

However, I meant to ask, do you really think if the campaign were on popular vote and not Electoral college, that Trump would have a chance of winning? Hillary won by 3 million, not by 300,000... 3,000,000 is a lot of people.... I don't actually believe you think Trump would've won the popular vote in any circumstance.
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Sep 7 2018 10:15am
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Holy Cow. PaRD is on fire with the fellatio this morning.

:rofl:

Sorry folks, i'm not going to drink the Koolaid until the dust settles on this one. This "bombshell" won't be talked about in 5 days time.

Can we get back to the Hispanic/Jewish woman who threw up a NeoNazi sign during BK's hearing? Or the collusion story? Maybe Nike? At least that shit is funny.


typical trump cultist mentality: "let's ignore watching our democracy crumble and ignore a current constitutional crisis, because LOL LIBS ARE ALL CRAZY TRIGGERED"
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Sep 7 2018 10:19am
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1. Someone decided they could pretty much say anything to the NYT or Woodward and get either money or fame.
2. Even if every bit of it is true. So what.

Stormy did it for money, obviously, and then maybe for fame.
Omarosa did it for fame, and maybe down the road for money.

Doesn't mean either one told the truth. And even if they did... so what. None of the things Trump is accused of by the NYT, Woodward or the bimbos, is illegal.


3rd goalpost move LOL:

>it's on op ed LOL, obviously fake news/made up by NYT
>okay, it was a real west wing official/staffer, but it's completely made up/all lies
>okay, even if it was true. So what.

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Sep 7 2018 10:21am
Quote (Horford @ Sep 7 2018 09:10am)
to ask, do you really think if the campaign were on popular vote and not Electoral college, that Trump would have a chance of winning? Hillary won by 3 million, not by 300,000... 3,000,000 is a lot of people.... I don't actually believe you think Trump would've won the popular vote in any circumstance.


can't really say for sure but he would have done alright with a different strategy

go to big blue states and clean up the piles of conservatives that think their vote doesn't count
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Sep 7 2018 10:22am
Quote (Horford @ Sep 7 2018 12:19pm)
3rd goalpost move LOL:

>it's on op ed LOL, obviously fake news/made up by NYT
>okay, it was a real west wing official/staffer, but it's completely made up/all lies
>okay, even if it was true. So what.




Dude, get some edumacation. A response to another person, with clarification is NOT a goal post move.


Is there some reason you are ignoring JSP's double, and triple post rules?
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Sep 7 2018 10:25am
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Dude, get some edumacation. A response to another person, with clarification is NOT a goal post move.


Is there some reason you are ignoring JSP's double, and triple post rules?


he can't edit afaik

and settle down narc an increasing amount of your posts are liberal tear spam that doesn't even apply to reality
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Sep 7 2018 10:27am
Quote (Beowulf @ Sep 7 2018 12:25pm)
he can't edit afaik

and settle down narc an increasing amount of your posts are liberal tear spam that doesn't even apply to reality




LOL. Liberal tears ARE the reality, but I expect your eyes are too misty to see that. :/
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Sep 7 2018 10:27am
Quote (Beowulf @ Sep 7 2018 12:21pm)
can't really say for sure but he would have done alright with a different strategy

go to big blue states and clean up the piles of conservatives that think their vote doesn't count


sure, it's impossible to say for certain, but 3,000,000 is a LOT of people, to give you some perspective, that's the entirety of the populations of Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont COMBINED. Do you really think Trump would swing that many people by campaigning for the popular vote? I don't. Not to mention, Hillary would've campaigned differently as well, which would essentially cancel out how Trump would campaign differently.

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Is there some reason you are ignoring JSP's double, and triple post rules?


I can't edit posts, you realize how whiny and desperate you're coming off as now? report me if i'm triggering you that much?
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Sep 7 2018 10:30am
Quote (Horford @ Sep 7 2018 11:15am)
typical trump cultist mentality: "let's ignore watching our democracy crumble and ignore a current constitutional crisis, because LOL LIBS ARE ALL CRAZY TRIGGERED"

Are you also not scammer tagged in this fictional la la land you speak of ?

Because in reality our democracy is not crumbling, nor is a constitutional crisis going on.

Take a step back, take a deep breath, unclinch your fists. You’ll be fine, buddy
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Sep 7 2018 10:34am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Sep 7 2018 12:30pm)
Are you also not scammer tagged in this fictional la la land you speak of ?

Because in reality our democracy is not crumbling, nor is a constitutional crisis going on.

Take a step back, take a deep breath, unclinch your fists. You’ll be fine, buddy


>two-track presidency
>our democracy is not crumbling

which is it? do you follow the news at all?

you know I enjoy it when trump cultists bring up my trade status right? it means they have no relevant intellectual argument so they resort to: "REPAY YOUR SCAMS!" "LOCKED/SCAMMER!"
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