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The thing is the government doesn't subsidize the cost to review the papers, just the cost to do the research. I would agree if the government was paying for the journal to be published but they aren't.

I'd actually love if the government would pay for journals that way it would remove the profit incentive and allow for more unbiased review process.


Like everything it isn't black and white. But the US government subsidizes a lot of research and the people should have a right to access it for free - it's not like the review process is what costs the most. It is a complex economy but what isn't these days? The government would benefit from certain types of research being validated so I'm not really in favor of government run journals.

I'm a fan of government funded research but it should at least be a reasonable price for citizens to access. Most journals cost thousands of dollars per year for a subscription to read articles that the people subsidized most of the research for.

Ill admit that I don't know how to effectively fix it all for everyone's liking but something should be changed.

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You keep calling it a break, it's not, it's an increase. A tax that's never been there before.




The college tax thing is the ability to write off some things, ergo, pay less taxes, or get tax breaks.
The House tax bill wants to remove those tax breaks/write offs, for colleges and students.

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One brave republican has spoken out bravely about lazy children expecting the govt to do everything for them
they ought to start working to pay for their own health insurance - no doubt the businesses who will be given a large chunk of money with this latest bill will invest in sweatshops which will employ the children allowing them to get health insurance, that is of course once we do away with child labour laws that get in the way of a childs freedom to pursue employment

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/12/3/16730496/orrin-hatch-chip-tax-bill
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This week, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) helped push a tax bill through the Senate that will cost about $1 trillion. At the same time, he lamented the difficulties of finding the money to fund the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), which pays for healthcare for nine million children and costs about $14 billion a year — a program Hatch helped create.

A Sunday-morning tweet from MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough quoting Hatch kicked off a dustup on Twitter over the Utah Republican’s take on CHIP. Funding for the program — which was created as a joint effort between Hatch and Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy in 1997 — expired at the end of September; Congress has yet to reauthorize it. That puts health care for millions of American children at risk.

On Thursday evening, as the Senate debated the Republican tax plan, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) asked whether there’s “something we can do to get the children’s health insurance program done.”

Hatch’s response, in a nutshell: Yes, we’ll fund the program, but we’re really short on money.

“We’re going to do CHIP, there’s no question about it in my mind. And it’s got to be done the right way,” Hatch said. “But the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore, and to just add more and more spending and more and more spending, and you can look at the rest of the bill for the more and more spending.”

This came as he advocated for a tax bill that, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation’s latest estimate, will add approximately $1 trillion to the deficit even when adjusted for economic growth, and which disproportionately benefits corporations and the wealthy.

In his speech, Hatch also said he thinks CHIP has done a “terrific job for people who really need the help” and noted that he had advocated for helping those who can’t help themselves throughout his Senate career. But, he continued, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves, won’t lift a finger and expect the federal government to do everything.” He blamed a “liberal philosophy” for creating millions of people “who believe everything they are or ever hope to be depend upon the federal government rather than the opportunities that this great country grants them.”
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The college tax thing is the ability to write off some things, ergo, pay less taxes, or get tax breaks.
The House tax bill wants to remove those tax breaks/write offs, for colleges and students.


No, it's not a write off. It's reclassifying something that has never been considered income to now be income.

A write off is a completely different thing entirely.

You need to at least know the basic terminology to have this conversation effectively.

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market hates this, not :rofl:

sadly this was slightly offset because the market had to reclaim all the losses from friday due to the #fakenews reporting by disgraceful abc and their now-suspended but still a liar tabloid leader brian ross (see link below)



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from seeing some of the outrage from contemporaries and peers this is somewhat accurate
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from seeing some of the outrage from contemporaries and peers this is somewhat accurate


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from seeing some of the outrage from contemporaries and peers this is somewhat accurate


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id still shag her

scousers were never known for their pickiness my friend!!
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