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Mar 21 2016 12:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 21 2016 12:24pm)
People think i'm fucking nuts when i tell them about grocery stores in the hood that have literally zero fresh vegetables, literal. A few dented cans and you might be lucky. Now can someone get into the bus and ride across town to another grocery store? Sure. But there are very real places that are food deserts.

The biggest tool to fight this dynamic is urban agriculture, from community gardens to indoor home gardens. This of course requires a lot of education for populations of people that know nothing of farming. Luckily it is slowly catching on, New York is seeing an explosion of urban farming.


It also ignores the time commitment to preparing the food that the poor honestly may not have.
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Mar 21 2016 12:45pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 21 2016 02:10pm)
...if by meal you mean the standard fare of the poor of cheap hot dogs , processed hot dog buns served with boxed mac & cheese you might be closer to the truth .


Yes, I see this with a lot of poor families that try to buy bulk amount of food with the lowest amount of money possible. This stuff isn't healthy but it's cheap and quick to prepare... $2-3 dollars to feed your family vs $10-20 to put together a healthy well-balanced meal that can take 1-2 hours of prep/cooking? This is why you have so many poor families with crap diets.

I don't understand how families get by on minimum wage, honestly. It seems to me that if you work 40 hours, you should be able to afford your bills and keep good healthy food on the table for your kids... maybe I'm an idealist. But I know that there are many parents out there working more than 40hrs/wk that are still struggling to make ends meet because they are stuck in crap minimum wage jobs.
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Mar 21 2016 12:50pm
Quote (Mezandriia @ Mar 21 2016 01:45pm)
Yes, I see this with a lot of poor families that try to buy bulk amount of food with the lowest amount of money possible. This stuff isn't healthy but it's cheap and quick to prepare... $2-3 dollars to feed your family vs $10-20 to put together a healthy well-balanced meal that can take 1-2 hours of prep/cooking? This is why you have so many poor families with crap diets.

I don't understand how families get by on minimum wage, honestly. It seems to me that if you work 40 hours, you should be able to afford your bills and keep good healthy food on the table for your kids... maybe I'm an idealist. But I know that there are many parents out there working more than 40hrs/wk that are still struggling to make ends meet because they are stuck in crap minimum wage jobs.


Minimum wage jobs aren't meant to feed a family of 5. Its pretty simple really.

They're meant for a 16 year old to break into the work force.

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Mar 21 2016 01:10pm
Need to just call the obesity epidemic an overeating epidemic because overeating is the root cause.

You don't need a balanced diet to lose weight in the case of people being obese. They just need to stop eating 1.5-2x the amount of calories they are eating daily and they would lose weight.
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Mar 21 2016 01:12pm
Quote (Mangix @ Mar 21 2016 02:50pm)
Minimum wage jobs aren't meant to feed a family of 5. Its pretty simple really.

They're meant for a 16 year old to break into the work force.


That would be fine if there were more jobs available that AREN'T minimum wage that are still accessible to people without a college degree.

I mean, think about it. We say that someone should be able to better themselves and get a good paying job, but good paying jobs that don't have high requirements such as extensive experience or a college degree just AREN'T AVAILABLE. So that leaves a person with a choice between going to college and racking up 40k+ in debt (unless they happen to be lucky enough to have parents who can foot the bill for them) or working their way up the ladder for 10+ years to get a better paying job. The average age for starting a family is between what, 20-30 years old? Either way they're screwed unless they were born in good financially-sound families or have exceptional motivation and willpower to succeed on their own.
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Need to just call the obesity epidemic an overeating epidemic because overeating is the root cause.

You don't need a balanced diet to lose weight in the case of people being obese. They just need to stop eating 1.5-2x the amount of calories they are eating daily and they would lose weight.


They eat a ton of calorie dense food, so even if the servings are smaller a lot of times, they're still eating too much calorie wise. For a comparison. 12 grilled chicken nuggets from Chick Fil A is less calories (about 200) than just the bun on a McChicken.
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Mar 21 2016 07:10pm)
Need to just call the obesity epidemic an overeating epidemic because overeating is the root cause.

You don't need a balanced diet to lose weight in the case of people being obese. They just need to stop eating 1.5-2x the amount of calories they are eating daily and they would lose weight.


I think it's two-fold. It's over-eating (and the lack of personal responsibility that comes with it) and the abundance of cheap, low quality foods. Also:



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Mar 21 2016 01:36pm
When did we switch from tens of thousands of years of recorded history of "The poor starving masses" to "The poor who overeat five times the needed caloric intake until they resemble elephants"
Fat people gorge themselves in amounts of food that disgust me regardless of the nutritional content, lets be real here, fatties aren't eating the same portion sizes and magically ballooning due to a conspiracy of cola and junk food companies twirling their snidely whiplash moustaches. They're stuffing their pieholes until they expand to fill all the available space. We aren't discussing skeletal victims of poverty dying in our streets, the underprivileged don't line up for soup and wonder where the next meal will come from, they swipe a card and get five burgers and wash it down with syrup.

Food deserts are just fat apologism. Fat acceptance is an insidious and decadent subversion of cultural norms. Its enabled by political correctness, bleeding hearts and junk science.
We made serious attempts to quash smoking, and becoming at least partially taboo as a result. And its been a relative success. We need to quash obesity even more fervently
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 21 2016 01:36pm)
When did we switch from tens of thousands of years of recorded history of "The poor starving masses" to "The poor who overeat five times the needed caloric intake until they resemble elephants"
Fat people gorge themselves in amounts of food that disgust me regardless of the nutritional content, lets be real here, fatties aren't eating the same portion sizes and magically ballooning due to a conspiracy of cola and junk food companies twirling their snidely whiplash moustaches. They're stuffing their pieholes until they expand to fill all the available space. We aren't discussing skeletal victims of poverty dying in our streets, the underprivileged don't line up for soup and wonder where the next meal will come from, they swipe a card and get five burgers and wash it down with syrup.

Food deserts are just fat apologism. Fat acceptance is an insidious and decadent subversion of cultural norms. Its enabled by political correctness, bleeding hearts and junk science.
We made serious attempts to quash smoking, and becoming at least partially taboo as a result. And its been a relative success. We need to quash obesity even more fervently


High fructose corn syrup, yo. Thanks, decades of farm bills and the attached sugar tariffs.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 21 2016 12:36pm)
When did we switch from tens of thousands of years of recorded history of "The poor starving masses" to "The poor who overeat five times the needed caloric intake until they resemble elephants"
Fat people gorge themselves in amounts of food that disgust me regardless of the nutritional content, lets be real here, fatties aren't eating the same portion sizes and magically ballooning due to a conspiracy of cola and junk food companies twirling their snidely whiplash moustaches. They're stuffing their pieholes until they expand to fill all the available space. We aren't discussing skeletal victims of poverty dying in our streets, the underprivileged don't line up for soup and wonder where the next meal will come from, they swipe a card and get five burgers and wash it down with syrup.

Food deserts are just fat apologism. Fat acceptance is an insidious and decadent subversion of cultural norms. Its enabled by political correctness, bleeding hearts and junk science.
We made serious attempts to quash smoking, and becoming at least partially taboo as a result. And its been a relative success. We need to quash obesity even more fervently


Yep. Even though McDonalds is garbage, you aren't gonna get fat on one burger a day. And you'll save some money and time, too. But people don't like feeling hungry, so at the first pangs they go eat more food.
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