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#171
Oct 14 2014 03:24pm
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I have a hard time believing that, through the stories of most religions, that jesus, or your mesiah is one person. The thought lingers that Jesus was a title, similar to that of a pope, of a religious leader.g. Listen it all makes a great story for me and if a large portion of Rome wasn't burned, more than likely leaving the useless fairy tails of an author named tacitus rather than historical documentation

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#172
Oct 14 2014 04:55pm
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Jesus is similiar to a long line of other religious figures. Long list of prophets that were born dec 25th, died and resurrected, had a star and kings signaling their birth, had 12 "followers" ect ect.
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#173
Oct 14 2014 04:56pm
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Jesus is similiar to a long line of other religious figures. Long list of prophets that were born dec 25th, died and resurrected, had a star and kings signaling their birth, had 12 "followers" ect ect.


That was debunked hundreds of years ago, lol.
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#174
Oct 14 2014 05:00pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 14 2014 05:56pm)
That was debunked hundreds of years ago, lol.


christian denial != debunking
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#175
Oct 14 2014 05:17pm
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That was debunked hundreds of years ago, lol.


lol, lets always leave the original bible and scriptures open to interpretation so we can change shit every couple hundred years to better suite a modern civilization. Quite the debunkers.

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#176
Oct 14 2014 05:19pm
Quote (Hacintosh @ Oct 14 2014 02:55pm)
Jesus is similiar to a long line of other religious figures. Long list of prophets that were born dec 25th, died and resurrected, had a star and kings signaling their birth, had 12 "followers" ect ect.


Don't forget the dozens of other biblical stories that are similar to those of other religions, often times generations apart. All these things are easy to ignore when you use the "faith" excuse.
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Oct 14 2014 05:21pm
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Don't forget the dozens of other biblical stories that are similar to those of other religions, often times generations apart.  All these things are easy to ignore when you use the "faith" excuse.


it's like having someone tell a story and as it's told to the next person and next person things change, sometimes to suite, sometimes by accident.
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#178
Oct 14 2014 05:57pm
Quote (crunkinator @ Oct 14 2014 11:30pm)
I have a hard time believing that, through the stories of most religions, that jesus, or your mesiah is one person. The thought lingers that Jesus was a title, similar to that of a pope, of a religious leader.g. Listen it all makes a great story for me and if a large portion of Rome wasn't burned, more than likely leaving the useless fairy tails of an author named tacitus rather than historical documentation, i might buy into it more. But I've read the bible, two versions, though extremely entertaining as a story, no righteous god would be so vindictive of this own children

i really like this part of New Atheism. please recite it again and again. :D


Quote (crunkinator @ Oct 14 2014 11:30pm)
Rome wasn't burned, more than likely leaving the useless fairy tails of an author named tacitus rather than historical documentation, i might buy into it more.

what a nuanced understanding of God!
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But I've read the bible, two versions, though extremely entertaining as a story, no righteous god would be so vindictive of this own children

"i dun' like it!!!"

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#179
Oct 14 2014 06:04pm
Quote (Gastly @ 14 Oct 2014 23:57)
i really like this part of New Atheism. please recite it again and again. :D



what a nuanced understanding of God!

"i dun' like it!!!"


How about not mocking other people's (perfectly valid) opinions and perhaps offering a counter argument to constructively move this conversation along from shitflinging to an actual discussion.
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#180
Oct 14 2014 07:34pm
The Zeitgeistian misinformation isn't very helpful.

Here's an actually good, scholarly presentation arguing against the historicity of Jesus. I'm not sure I agree with him, but it at least deserves consideration:

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