d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > So You Think That You Are Free ?
Prev1161718192022Next
Closed New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 23,792
Joined: May 30 2006
Gold: 1,149.93
Dec 2 2013 10:17am
Quote (sylvannos @ Dec 2 2013 07:53am)
How do you feel about forklifts and semitrucks? Or cranes? Do you have a natural right to operate those or are they things you think the government can safely regulate?


These questions are irrelevant.

I feel that any man or woman should be able to travel upon any road he or she wishes to, in whatever personal conveyance they want to use; so long as they do not infringe upon the natural rights of other HUMAN BEINGS and do it in reasonable harmony with the environment.

THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SAFELY REGULATE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY DO SO USING FORCE. FORCE AND SAFELY DO NOT GO TOGETHER.

We as a people in a global community can help to "regulate" each other through respecting others rights, leading by example and proper education.

This post was edited by datajunky on Dec 2 2013 10:19am
Member
Posts: 96,125
Joined: Mar 15 2007
Gold: 7,252.72
Dec 2 2013 10:30am
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 2 2013 11:17am)
These questions are irrelevant.

I feel that any man or woman should be able to travel upon any road he or she wishes to, in whatever personal conveyance they want to use; so long as they do not infringe upon the natural rights of other HUMAN BEINGS and do it in reasonable harmony with the environment.

THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SAFELY REGULATE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY DO SO USING FORCE. FORCE AND SAFELY DO NOT GO TOGETHER.

We as a people in a global community can help to "regulate" each other through respecting others rights, leading by example and proper education.


...irrelevant . What you " feel " will never trump what we , as a society , have determined to be in our best interests . If we must use force to enforce those interests we will .
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Dec 2 2013 10:53am
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 2 2013 10:17am)
These questions are irrelevant.

I feel that any man or woman should be able to travel upon any road he or she wishes to, in whatever personal conveyance they want to use; so long as they do not infringe upon the natural rights of other HUMAN BEINGS and do it in reasonable harmony with the environment.

THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SAFELY REGULATE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY DO SO USING FORCE. FORCE AND SAFELY DO NOT GO TOGETHER.

We as a people in a global community can help to "regulate" each other through respecting others rights, leading by example and proper education.


Pushing atoddler out of the path of a moving vehicle is an application of force, and is safe. You are really stupid if you think no application of force is safe, but that might be why you also think peer review is a bought process
Member
Posts: 63,058
Joined: Jul 15 2005
Gold: 152.00
Dec 2 2013 02:42pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 2 2013 11:53am)
Pushing atoddler out of the path of a moving vehicle is an application of force, and is safe.  You are really stupid if you think no application of force is safe, but that might be why you also think peer review is a bought process


datajunky probably thinks the child should have the freedom to choose whether or not to move out of the way :rofl:

This post was edited by Voyaging on Dec 2 2013 02:42pm
Member
Posts: 57,901
Joined: Dec 3 2008
Gold: 286.00
Dec 2 2013 02:47pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Dec 2 2013 03:42pm)
datajunky probably thinks the child should have the freedom to choose whether or not to move out of the way  :rofl:


Well he or she couldn't be coerced out of the way at least...he or she has the freedom to get hit by a moving vehicle if he or she wants.
Member
Posts: 27
Joined: Dec 2 2013
Gold: 0.00
Dec 2 2013 05:52pm
some men just want to watch the world burn haha ^___________________^
Member
Posts: 34,649
Joined: Jul 2 2007
Gold: 273.37
Dec 2 2013 09:48pm
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 2 2013 11:17am)
These questions are irrelevant.

I feel that any man or woman should be able to travel upon any road he or she wishes to, in whatever personal conveyance they want to use; so long as they do not infringe upon the natural rights of other HUMAN BEINGS and do it in reasonable harmony with the environment.

THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SAFELY REGULATE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY DO SO USING FORCE. FORCE AND SAFELY DO NOT GO TOGETHER.

We as a people in a global community can help to "regulate" each other through respecting others rights, leading by example and proper education.


I don't respect your vision, I have property rights that I wanted respected, I have public property rights I want respected.

You want the "global community" to give up rights they enjoy so you can live the life you want. Too bad, nobody shares your vision.
Member
Posts: 30,384
Joined: Jan 29 2008
Gold: 10,921.27
Dec 2 2013 11:22pm
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 2 2013 04:17pm)
These questions are irrelevant.

I feel that any man or woman should be able to travel upon any road he or she wishes to, in whatever personal conveyance they want to use; so long as they do not infringe upon the natural rights of other HUMAN BEINGS and do it in reasonable harmony with the environment.

THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SAFELY REGULATE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY DO SO USING FORCE. FORCE AND SAFELY DO NOT GO TOGETHER.

We as a people in a global community can help to "regulate" each other through respecting others rights, leading by example and proper education.


Quick question..... how do you plan on accomplishing that if there is no regulation on who can drive and where/how...?
Member
Posts: 11,343
Joined: Jan 23 2007
Gold: 752.10
Dec 3 2013 12:14am
Quote (LordTrogdor @ Dec 2 2013 11:22pm)
Quick question..... how do you plan on accomplishing that if there is no regulation on who can drive and where/how...?


Don't burst his bubble :(
Member
Posts: 23,792
Joined: May 30 2006
Gold: 1,149.93
Dec 8 2013 09:51am
Quote (LordTrogdor @ Dec 3 2013 12:22am)
Quick question..... how do you plan on accomplishing that if there is no regulation on who can drive and where/how...?


Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 2 2013 10:48pm)
I don't respect your vision, I have property rights that I wanted respected, I have public property rights I want respected.

You want the "global community" to give up rights they enjoy so you can live the life you want. Too bad, nobody shares your vision.


There is no such thing as true property rights. You might hold a title or a deed but the land doesn't belong to you. In the serfdom world you live in and defend to the death with your stupidity leading the charge, you make this all possible. Plenty of people share my vision. In fact, if more people defended their rights more often we wouldn't be having this discussion. You think I'm just supposed to sign this social contract without question but I'm not a stupid little slave like you.

I have a right to travel this earth with or without your permission and if you want to try and stop me, come at me bro. If I rear end you, I'll pay for the damages. But acting without insurance forces me to be more conscious of my driving habits and I'm going to see as lot less fender benders than you and your insured ilk of serfs. All you have to do is protect and preserve the rights you are born with instead of asking for permission for privileges to which you already have a right to.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1161718192022Next
Closed New Topic New Poll