so you discount all of the cases listed in the report i quoted because a guy posting with two pitbulls tries to discredit every word by making 'vanilla' statements?
you are clearly partisan in your views and haven't read the note on the 'dogbite' site which states that even if a lot of the cases are discounted it is still clear that pitbulls are more dangerous than (most) other breeds and yes, i assume that you also believe that the group of bull terriers and bull dogs is named for their body shape rather than their history and the purpose they were bred for
it's really sad to see that someone who has generally reasonable views cannot digest that dog breeds show different characteristics and that pitbulls have some which make them a dangerous breed (but it seems to be an common trait of americans to be quite fundamental in certain beliefs and ignore all the evidence from around the world)

Don't you find it at least a little ironic that you are trying to discredit a web site with an agenda by citing a blogger with an agenda? I would like to believe that it's not the breed--it's the owner. We had an English Bulldog when I was a kid, and he was the sweetest of all the dogs we owned despite the fact that they were once banned from the streets of Rome for being too vicious. This sort of indicates that selective breeding can breed aggression out. On the other hand, there must be some reason why pitbulls are the fighting dogs of choice these days. And by several accounts, pitbull breeders often look to breed more aggression into their dogs. Cite all the numbers that you want, but no one is doing that with poodles.

Has it occured to you that I posted a counter "blog" to better reiiterate how rediculous it is posting a biased blog site of a pit bull attack victim as evidence to an arguement?
Not that his agenda wasn't lost on me. He was right about a few things.

edit: also a firm believer that it's not the breed, it's the owner.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Apr 4 2011 11:30pm

I think you are missing my point. Any yahoo with a website can pretend to be an authority these days. The whole dueling credentials thing is funny. I looked back at your post again, too. It still seems earnest to me. Maybe it's the Eric face. Or the style--it's a little dry for satire. Now conjuring up images of aggressive poodles in a dog fighting pit--that's how to write humor

Poodles can rip your face off. Nothing funny about that.
Clearly lying.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Apr 4 2011 11:37pm

Touche...

But, really, if you pass out drunk on the floor, and your toy poodle eats your face, you only have yourself to blame.

yes, the old "guns don't kill" argument americans are never tired of using
since you are not going to change from that BELIEVE it is no use to list all those instances where loyal family pitbulls turned violent
and neither to ask you why there are nearly no cases of swiss or pyrenees mountain dogs attacking someone
(and those breeds are far more powerful than pitbulls)
no-one in those countries which banned pitbulls would suggest that the owner's treatment of the dogs does not contribute to the attack ratio but it alone does not explain it, the disposition of the breed plays a role as well
but you stay in the BELIEVE that all dog breeds are equal in their disposition and i would hope that you start training pitbulls as companion dogs, seeing eye dogs, shepherding dogs, general police dogs or pointing dogs (just to give a few examples) - good luck

you just keep showing your ignorance about dogs. you are blaming the dog for every attack and aren't even touching the fact that most attacks are because of the person not the dog. dogs don't "just attack" no matter how much you want to believe.

you are also failing to realize that they are not banned on any merit other than the ignorant public such a yourself.

you find me some factual evidence that says pitbulls are born with a more aggressive nature and come back.

You know what's funny?

First article on google - http://www.dreamdogs.co.uk/pyrenean-mountain-dogs-attacking-tourists-56.html

Pit Bulls and the like can be great companions, and of all the German Shepards I have seen, all are amazingly behaved and well trained and great dogs. I've seen some good pit bulls and I've seen a few bad ones, but their owners were white trash.

So yeah I believe the owner is the most important aspect, but if the dogs are mistreated, I do agree it is very dangerous considered the viciousness of the breed when not trained properly and abused.