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Oct 11 2025 12:03pm
Nothing that hasn’t been said. I think we’ve both made our points or at least arguments. It also goes well beyond this thread for my disagreements with how goom presents things. But at this point maybe I’m just becoming what I dislike and villainizing folks. I quit responding because the bickering wasn’t advancing anything… but I guess here I am back.


Fair enough tbh. I have lots of people who hate the right and honestly don't know that I'd rather vote conservative than left atm. They are all very nice people, except when politics become involved. I don't blame them, I blame the schools and society tbh.
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Oct 11 2025 12:12pm
Nothing that hasn’t been said. I think we’ve both made our points or at least arguments. It also goes well beyond this thread for my disagreements with how goom presents things. But at this point maybe I’m just becoming what I dislike and villainizing folks. I quit responding because the bickering wasn’t advancing anything… but I guess here I am back.


You haven't made any argument.

The original argument was that universal, nationalized healthcare requires deeply unpalatable cuts (ie nurses, doctors) that democrats are not only unwilling to stomach, but they are going the opposite direction with proposals that put illegal aliens on their plans, ballooning costs at the expense of americans.
You denied democrats proposed this, without addressing the argument about necessary cuts, without addressing whether illegal aliens are a huge net negative that drag down a system, which they obviously are.
I showed proof over and over that democrats have not only proposed covering illegal aliens, but in fact its 100% of the policy platform of the entire party with no dissent, and they've already implemented it at the state and local level where they hold power.
You again denied they proposed this, even as it danced naked in front of you.

Its not some 'agree to disagree' nonsense. Its not even an 'I'm right, you're wrong'.
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Oct 11 2025 12:23pm
You haven't made any argument.

The original argument was that universal, nationalized healthcare requires deeply unpalatable cuts (ie nurses, doctors) that democrats are not only unwilling to stomach, but they are going the opposite direction with proposals that put illegal aliens on their plans, ballooning costs at the expense of americans.
You denied democrats proposed this, without addressing the argument about necessary cuts, without addressing whether illegal aliens are a huge net negative that drag down a system, which they obviously are.
I showed proof over and over that democrats have not only proposed covering illegal aliens, but in fact its 100% of the policy platform of the entire party with no dissent, and they've already implemented it at the state and local level where they hold power.
You again denied they proposed this, even as it danced naked in front of you.

Its not some 'agree to disagree' nonsense. Its not even an 'I'm right, you're wrong'.


we need a one term pres with balls who isnt scared to crush the entire industry and doesnt care about party or re election. bernie might have been it but the dnc rigged the primaries leading to trumps win. the left should be held accountable for messing up our chance at healthcare and trumps rise to power.
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Oct 11 2025 12:33pm
but in fact its 100% of the policy platform of the entire party with no dissent


you wondered why I quit responding. And this is why. I move on.

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Oct 11 2025 12:37pm
in the end policies are not what comes out of a persons mouth but what their actions are.
the policy(s) of the left are not that hard to recognize as we witnessed them for the past 8 years.
it sums up. if you dont do exactly as we say you will be endlessly harassed


Trump was president for half of that time?
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Oct 11 2025 12:38pm
we need a one term pres with balls who isnt scared to crush the entire industry and doesnt care about party or re election. bernie might have been it but the dnc rigged the primaries leading to trumps win. the left should be held accountable for messing up our chance at healthcare and trumps rise to power.


Only Nixon could go to China. I said we were more likely to get closer to nationalized healthcare with Trump than with, well Clinton is who I said it about at the time.
Even if a democrat was elected and advocated for universal healthcare he'd still have half the country bitterly opposed. Meanwhile Trump just launched TrumpRx so the federal government can sell drugs directly on the marketplace, nationalized and cutting out insurers.
But for the true cuts necessary, we need a force stronger than Trump.
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Oct 11 2025 01:59pm
While I agree that politicians lie. Your argument basically boils down to believe what they say when I don’t like it. Don’t believe what they say when I like it (only applies to the other team thiugh)


No it's, hear what they say, pay attention during office, and hold them accountable. Never should somebody believe anything they see on the internet. There is not enough accountability.

The point is the democratic party is telling you, "nah nevermind that's not in our policy atm" but they turn around and try to keep illegals in the country and previous term allowed millions in.

Their actions are speaking louder than their words.
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Oct 11 2025 04:13pm
^ryvulet you wondered why I quit responding. And this is why. I move on.


People dont get how boring they are.
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Oct 11 2025 04:17pm
People dont get how boring they are.


lol I’m definitely boring AF.
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