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Dec 14 2024 02:53am
Quote (Many_Names @ 13 Dec 2024 19:18)
The claim that we “lack” strategic depth seems disconnected, given that we have reshaped the entire Middle East in 1 year.

I think you misunderstand what I meant with the term "strategic depth"?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_depth


Quote (Many_Names @ 14 Dec 2024 07:39)

Podemos = party of woke millenial tankies. No surprise that they're fully on board with the "genocide"-narrative. :rolleyes:

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I think you misunderstand what I meant with the term "strategic depth"?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_depth



Podemos = party of woke millenial tankies. No surprise that they're fully on board with the "genocide"-narrative. :rolleyes:


Thanks for the correction
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Dec 14 2024 10:10am
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 14 2024 01:27am)
Israels still going ham in syria:

Israeli forces have captured al-Khalidiyah, Rwihinah and the heights of Mughr al-Meer, Daraa direction, south Syria.

Earlier today, Israeli troops entered the former Syrian Arab Army base at Tall ash-Sham but withdrew a couple of hours later.

276 sqkm of Syria is under Israel's control (excluding the Golan).
https://t.me/rnintel/23465

Also, for those who are interested, israels movements in syria are very similar to the war of attrition in the Bashan salient in the yom kippur war. History sure does rhyme!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_of_Attrition_in_the_Bashan_Salient&wprov=rarw1

That's the aim. They are destroying the military capability of HTS. Also, any rival group who emerges is going to try to grab the resources left behind (look at what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, insurgents grabbed what was left instantly). I mean Syria is going to be an Islamist shithole, might as well make them harmless.

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Quote (babun1024 @ 14 Dec 2024 18:10)
That's the aim. They are destroying the military capability of HTS. Also, any rival group who emerges is going to try to grab the resources left behind (look at what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, insurgents grabbed what was left instantly). I mean Syria is going to be an Islamist shithole, might as well make them harmless.


It currently seems that Erdoğan has his eyes set on Syria.
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Dec 14 2024 06:53pm
As I've predicted i don't actually think the Russians are leaving the Syrian port/airbase. They've pulled most of their more important equipment and their forces from around Syria but these bases are likely to remain. Syria is pretty fragile, and you have to be pragmatic as new leaders, no benefit to grandstand and burn bridges. A relationship with Russia can still be very beneficial, as i mentioned particularly that Syria will probably need a lot of grain and other food aid as the dust settles which Russia can export. Turkey, which has a overwhelming power in Syria now also benefits and buys goodwill by allowing the Russians keep these bases. It's pretty interesting that Russia is allowed to basically save the Syrian regime brass and bring them to safety. Without that they'd be getting lynched like many already have.


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TARTOUS, Syria, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Russia is pulling back its military from the front lines in northern Syria and from posts in the Alawite Mountains but is not leaving its two main bases in the country after the fall of President Bashar al-Assad, four Syrian officials told Reuters.

The ousting of Assad, who along with his late father, former President Hafez al-Assad, had forged a close alliance with Moscow, has thrown the future of Russia's bases - the Hmeimim airbase in Latakia and the Tartous naval facility - into question.

Satellite footage from Friday shows what appeared to be at least two Antonov AN-124s, among the world's largest cargo planes, at the Hmeimim base with their nose cones open, apparently preparing to load up.
At least one cargo plane flew out on Saturday for Libya, a Syrian security official stationed outside the facility said.

Syrian military and security sources in contact with the Russians told Reuters that Moscow was pulling back its forces from the front lines and withdrawing some heavy equipment and senior Syrian officers.
But the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation, said Russia was not pulling out of its two main bases and currently had no intention of doing so.

Some equipment is being shipped back to Moscow as are very senior officers from Assad's military but the aim at this stage is to regroup and redeploy as dictated by developments on the ground, a senior Syrian army officer in touch with the Russian military told Reuters.




https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-pulling-back-not-out-syria-sources-say-2024-12-14/
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Colossal' explosions have filled the skies in Syria as Israeli strikes are said to have targeted military sites in the 'the heaviest strikes' in the area for more than a decade - with blasts which registered on earthquake sensors.

Tartus has been the location of one of Russia's two military bases in Syria and was used as a naval base, as well as an ammunition depot.
Russia's foreign ministry earlier today said it had evacuated some of its diplomatic staff from Syria, a week after the fall of the nation's dictator Bashar al-Assad.

On Wednesday, a Kremlin spokesperson had said Moscow was in contact with the new authorities in Syria regarding their bases' future.

The air strikes now raise more questions about the future of the Russian assets in the country, including the Hmeimim military airfield.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14195915/Massive-explosions-skies-Syria-Israeli-air-strikes-hammer-munitions-depots-major-port-city-heaviest-onslaught-decade.html


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Dec 15 2024 07:29pm
Lol, Israel basically just told us they're permanently annexing Golan. Building settlements= no intention of ever leaving.

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The Israeli government on Sunday approved a plan to expand settlements on the occupied Golan Heights, saying it was acting “in light of the war and the new front facing Syria” as the country uses the power vacuum next door to consolidate security on its border and advance its aims of growing settlements.

“Strengthening the Golan is strengthening the State of Israel, and it is especially important at this time. We will continue to hold onto it, cause it to blossom, and settle in it,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/12/15/israel-syria-war-news-hamas-gaza-palestine/
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Lol, Israel basically just told us they're permanently annexing Golan. Building settlements= no intention of ever leaving.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/12/15/israel-syria-war-news-hamas-gaza-palestine/


Until the situation in Syria becomes clearer,
you too wouldn’t want a terrorist organization of this scale sitting on your border either.
That’s why we are pushing the border further to their side, especially considering, as you mentioned earlier, that Israel lacks strategic depth.
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Quote (zorzin @ 16 Dec 2024 02:23)
Colossal' explosions have filled the skies in Syria as Israeli strikes are said to have targeted military sites in the 'the heaviest strikes' in the area for more than a decade - with blasts which registered on earthquake sensors.

Tartus has been the location of one of Russia's two military bases in Syria and was used as a naval base, as well as an ammunition depot.
Russia's foreign ministry earlier today said it had evacuated some of its diplomatic staff from Syria, a week after the fall of the nation's dictator Bashar al-Assad.

On Wednesday, a Kremlin spokesperson had said Moscow was in contact with the new authorities in Syria regarding their bases' future.

The air strikes now raise more questions about the future of the Russian assets in the country, including the Hmeimim military airfield.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14195915/Massive-explosions-skies-Syria-Israeli-air-strikes-hammer-munitions-depots-major-port-city-heaviest-onslaught-decade.html


Now imagine what they had there that caused 3.0 earthquake on richter scale
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Dec 16 2024 03:41am
Quote (Many_Names @ 16 Dec 2024 08:21)
Until the situation in Syria becomes clearer,
you too wouldn’t want a terrorist organization of this scale sitting on your border either.
That’s why we are pushing the border further to their side, especially considering, as you mentioned earlier, that Israel lacks strategic depth.


Come on, man, this is clearly a landgrab. The story talks about new settlements on the Golan Heights, which Isreal already had under its control before the overthrowing of Assad. I totally get why they're doing it, and I would do the exact same thing if I were in Israel's position, but it still is what it is.
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