Still think you're over-valuing it.

6'3" dude with a personality would outcompete a dude that spends a ton at the gym IMO in the dating pool, doesn't matter if its at 22 or 32. And i'm not saying this as someone that's fat or has a problem with fitness. I spent most of my mid 20s going to the gym 3 times a week. Even now I do, but cant find as much time with a kid and more demanding job. I just can't remember the last time i went to the gym with the specific intention to be super fit so I can land a chick, because even when i was way fitter and had a more muscular build, that played such a tiny role in actually landing someone.

Not true, women like fit guys. By fit I don't mean bodybuilders, I mean athletic type.

Dosen't matter if im under or over valuing it id guarantee that the majority of university dude gym goers are doing it to better their appearance for the opposite sex, not health and fitness goals or personal goals which is the point i am trying to make. Men are no different than females at that age. We're all just looking to fuck and a lot of social interaction that leads to fucking happens in one night stands where you purely connected because you're physically attracted to each other.

Girls might be doing it for attention and do it more online but men are also doing it for attention. From a psychological perspective, I don't know for modern times, id have to say females are more closely linked to their online reception, aka value themselves based on attention garnered where males probably are not as much impacted. But were all doing it for attention at that age, just males might not attach their self worth to it so much.

Males I think have other problems. Probably devaluing themselves because they cant get to some physical level they aspire to due to other males posting images of themselves online who are clearly juicing. Or they can't get to a level where they can fuck the hot chick so they end up on the SARMS train now which is just a steroid gateway drug , or they go full incel mode.

I think i'd dislike being in my late teens during this rise of social media. I didn't even have a phone until well into university. It was just typical , get a sick pump, crush beerpong and flipcup with the boys until midnight, crash into some cabs, try not to go home solo by 2 or 3 am. No tinder, no bullshit, just go to the bar and try your best. Probably fail, crash on your buddy's sofa, crush a jar of dill pickles because its all that's in the fridge in the morning, recuperate, try again the next night.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 20 2023 02:29pm

This is where I'm at, but one big influence is the quality of other gym members. Used to member at bigger high quality gym in a cushy suburb when working in a city, so much beautiful eye candy to keep things interesting while you run in place for 30-60 minutes like a hamster. Now I'm middle of nowhere gym, nothing good to see there, boring as hell. Currently trying a new approach, got a 100lb heavy bag and have it half way stuffed. Hoping to utilize combat sport for fitness training now, seems a lot more fun. Would like to try group fitness things, but nothing really available around here.

As a young father, you don't really need to be super fit. Just active and showing up places with kids. I took mine to a splash pad, basically all desperate women there.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jul 20 2023 05:35pm

Bunch of nerds talking about what makes men attractive.

Well, women have successfully brainwashed people they can be fat but the guy has to be fit

It seems we've got a different idea what is considered bulky. For comparison, I am 184cm, 89kg, 14% body fat. Do gym guys consider it lightweight, bulky or heavy?

We nerds are very perceptive and like to make sense of things

I'd say you're right in the pocket. Not lightweight, not too bulky but well built.

That's the thing. For women, I am almost bulky, for male gym goers, I am skinny. Our perspective is different.
Same for women, they compare each other with their attires, shoes, carriers etc. We couldn't give a f*** about those. A normal, not fat, not skinny woman with nice personality is all we ask for.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 21 2023 01:39pm

unironically a heavy bag in the garage is a key to a happy marriage. ive had mine a long time even pre kids. works wonders on stress. not bringing home work stress, not stressing about home stuff, etc. i'd rather hit a bag for 30 mins than even run 5 mins. i hate cardio other than bag work.