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Feb 18 2018 12:21pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Feb 2018 18:33)
no, obviously not. but the whole case shows how wrong the fbi is getting its priorities.


its priorities? you actually think they messed this up because they were too busy with the mueller investigation?!
wow, what percentage of the fbi do you think is involved in the russia probe? in terms of manpower and equipment? 90%? 95%? you are hilarious (at least i hope you meant that as a joke)...
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Feb 18 2018 12:40pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 18 2018 01:15pm)
have a look at the full text of Mueller's indictment of those 13 russians:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43091945

so it looks like the russians didnt want to push trump because he is Putin's crooked puppet or something like that, they just wanted to stir shit up.

it looks like the mueller investigation is not going towards "trump collusion with russia" like the leftists and democrats were hoping.


Oh, I realize the Russians are just trying to destabilize the US. Nothing new there. They have been doing that, on and off since before I was born.
Now, to add to that we have the middle east with their silent jihad, which IMO was very cleverly aided by Obama.

In fact, a lot of the world, and Saucy, have been trying to do that for a long time.



I think the main difference now is that the folks in the US are starting to fall for it. Rather than Trump I would have liked to see a president with enough raw charisma to get the Americans back to a cohesive whole, like we used to be.
This is also why I have issue with all these idiot "special interest groups" who aren't helping matters.

"Special interest groups", are a serious problem these days. I think they are all idiots, from KKK to BLM, to feminists, to LBGT, to Antifa and white supremacists.
This country needs to get back to the ol' all for one and one for all mentality that we used to have. Well, at least what we used to TRY to have.

It never ceases to amaze me that some folks just can't get it through their thick skulls, that we are stronger as a nation, when we all pull together.

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Feb 18 2018 02:08pm
Quote (fender @ 18 Feb 2018 19:21)
its priorities? you actually think they messed this up because they were too busy with the mueller investigation?!
wow, what percentage of the fbi do you think is involved in the russia probe? in terms of manpower and equipment? 90%? 95%? you are hilarious (at least i hope you meant that as a joke)...


oh come on.
what I meant is that the fbi is failing at its bread and butter tasks, crime prevention, because they and particularly their leadership are busy politicizing and being politicized.

Quote (Ghot @ 18 Feb 2018 19:40)
Oh, I realize the Russians are just trying to destabilize the US. Nothing new there. They have been doing that, on and off since before I was born.
Now, to add to that we have the middle east with their silent jihad, which IMO was very cleverly aided by Obama.

In fact, a lot of the world, and Saucy, have been trying to do that for a long time.



I think the main difference now is that the folks in the US are starting to fall for it. Rather than Trump I would have liked to see a president with enough raw charisma to get the Americans back to a cohesive whole, like we used to be.
This is also why I have issue with all these idiot "special interest groups" who aren't helping matters.

"Special interest groups", are a serious problem these days. I think they are all idiots, from KKK to BLM, to feminists, to LBGT, to Antifa and white supremacists.
This country needs to get back to the ol' all for one and one for all mentality that we used to have. Well, at least what we used to TRY to have.

It never ceases to amaze me that some folks just can't get it through their thick skulls, that we are stronger as a nation, when we all pull together.



it's actually rather logical: the more heterogene a society, the harder it becomes to unite (almost) everyone behind a common cause.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 18 2018 02:09pm
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Feb 18 2018 02:50pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 18 2018 02:08pm)
oh come on.
what I meant is that the fbi is failing at its bread and butter tasks, crime prevention, because they and particularly their leadership are busy politicizing and being politicized.


It's actually because of their focus on barely existent domestic Islamic terrorism.

Their bread and butter tasks were actually white collar crime pre-911, not shootings and other violence. That's the CIAs domain more than FBI.
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Feb 18 2018 03:05pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 18 2018 04:08pm)
oh come on.
what I meant is that the fbi is failing at its bread and butter tasks, crime prevention, because they and particularly their leadership are busy politicizing and being politicized.


They also f***ed up the Clinton investigation by changing the wording of laws.

Not a good track record, huh?
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Feb 18 2018 03:22pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 18 Feb 2018 21:50)
It's actually because of their focus on barely existent domestic Islamic terrorism.

Their bread and butter tasks were actually white collar crime pre-911, not shootings and other violence. That's the CIAs domain more than FBI.


9/11, boston marathon, pulse club shooting, fort hood, new york truck, and several others - is that what you call "barely existent"? particularly when considering that the list could be a lot longerl if the agencies had put less focus on islamistic terrorism during the past 17 years?


also, it's pretty obvious that domestic shootings and violence are not the primary preoccupation of the fbi - but when they receive multiple (!) calls from worried citizens about an imminent and serious danger, it's surely not asking too much to inform the local police.

oh, and of course domestic crime is NOT the bread and butter task of the CIA since the CIA is a foreign intelligence service.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 18 2018 03:22pm
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Feb 18 2018 05:31pm
Quote (Betaging @ Jul 18 2015 12:26pm)
I'm seriously so sick of hearing about Trump already; he's a fringe candidate who stands no chance at getting the nomination. He's this year's Ron Paul (gets tons of attention on the internet but loses by a landslide).


SAME!!!

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Feb 19 2018 04:12am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-ignoring-the-worst-attack-on-america-since-911/2018/02/18/5ad888f2-14f3-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html

Whats the formula for {number of sneaky facebook memes} to murdered americans? Given terrorist attacks like Orlando and San Bernadino and Fort Hood, and only 13 russians on facebook, Id have to figure that one "hillary in an orange jumpsuit" is worse than about 4-5 terrorist murders.
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Feb 19 2018 09:53am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 19 2018 06:12am)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-ignoring-the-worst-attack-on-america-since-911/2018/02/18/5ad888f2-14f3-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html

Whats the formula for {number of sneaky facebook memes} to murdered americans? Given terrorist attacks like Orlando and San Bernadino and Fort Hood, and only 13 russians on facebook, Id have to figure that one "hillary in an orange jumpsuit" is worse than about 4-5 terrorist murders.


Their formula is to simply assume bad motives in people they dont like and paint a narrative

The way news is supposed to be is to report events and let a narrative arise over time from the facts.

That type of news for accuracy doesnt exist outside of new media anymore. Ill bet you WP doesnt even look at the hard numbers now
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Feb 19 2018 10:18am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 19 2018 10:53am)
Their formula is to simply assume bad motives in people they dont like and paint a narrative

The way news is supposed to be is to report events and let a narrative arise over time from the facts.

That type of news for accuracy doesnt exist outside of new media anymore. Ill bet you WP doesnt even look at the hard numbers now


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