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Feb 18 2018 10:27am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 17 2018 10:46pm)
Quite easily actually. Most schools already spend a ton on non-educational items, including 'security', and do not rely on federal funding for it.
Most of their funding comes from local taxation.
They simply need to reform how the money they do spend is spent.

Federal spending on education has ballooned in recent decades with lackluster and counterproductive results.


Less books more guns is the Libertarian position.
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Feb 18 2018 10:54am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 18 2018 03:46am)
Quite easily actually. Most schools already spend a ton on non-educational items, including 'security', and do not rely on federal funding for it.
Most of their funding comes from local taxation.
They simply need to reform how the money they do spend is spent.

Federal spending on education has ballooned in recent decades with lackluster and counterproductive results.


Don’t really think the actuality is anywhere as a easy as you think it is.
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Feb 18 2018 11:06am
Quote (Interesting @ Feb 17 2018 10:21pm)
Not really sure how all of these schools are supposed to pay for additional security measures, guards, training, etc., especially when Trump proposes huge cuts to the Education budget.



When I grew up the next high school over...had some serious black - white problems.
They had cops, regular cops at the school when it was open. Doesn't Florida have cops? If the cops weren't in the loop, then why was the FBI not in the loop.

Seems like every time anyone drops the ball, they blame Trump. Almost like they think it's the presidents job to personally police schools.


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The FBI may not be spending too much time investigating collusion, which IMO is a witch hunt. But they are spending far too much time trying to rush around and lose documents, turn a blind eye etc.
Same with the DOJ for that matter.



/e This everything is Trump's fault rhetoric is getting kind of old. Seems like no one cares about facts any more, but just seem to be playing to the media and the voters.

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When I grew up the next high school over...had some serious black - white problems.
They had cops, regular cops at the school when it was open. Doesn't Florida have cops? If the cops weren't in the loop, then why was the FBI not in the loop.

Seems like every time anyone drops the ball, they blame Trump. Almost like they think it's the presidents job to personally police schools.




The FBI may not be spending too much time investigating collusion, which IMO is a witch hunt. But they are spending far too much time trying to rush around and lose documents, turn a blind eye etc.
Same with the DOJ for that matter.


He isn't supposed to harm schools, which cutting federal funding does. The right opposes it because it redistributes wealth for greater good, which is unfair to wealthier individuals.

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Feb 18 2018 11:14am
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He isn't supposed to harm schools, which cutting federal funding does. The right opposes it because it redistributes wealth for greater good.




I don't know what world you live in, but Trump seems to be the ONLY one trying to pass a budget.
The Florida police aren't under federal budget, where were they? They were staying home, because every time they do go out, someone is trying to lkill them or blame them for fighting back.

Police against bad guys is never going to be a clean and pretty thing. It's a reality we need to live with.

For the last year, the media has been giving front page to any one who has any complaint with police. How many front pages have been devoted to problems the police are having with the bad guys?
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Feb 18 2018 11:33am
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TIL school shootings didn't happen before the russia investigation...


no, obviously not. but the whole case shows how wrong the fbi is getting its priorities.
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Feb 18 2018 11:42am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 18 2018 12:33pm)
no, obviously not. but the whole case shows how wrong the fbi is getting its priorities.




Yep. They're too busy covering their asses, to do their job. :/

I'm not sure that they don't deserve to be being accused of getting far too caught up in politics in the past decade or so.
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Feb 18 2018 11:46am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 18 2018 12:33pm)
no, obviously not. but the whole case shows how wrong the fbi is getting its priorities.


One mistake shouldn't be an indictment of the whole FBI. It was bad, we'll find out what happened and surely strengthen that particular process, but it's completely unrelated to the Russia investigation.

Even Gowdy admits that the Russia investigation is legitimate, even if the Steele dossier was never created. At some point you need to face reality.
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Feb 18 2018 11:59am
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 18 2018 12:46pm)
One mistake shouldn't be an indictment of the whole FBI. It was bad, we'll find out what happened and surely strengthen that particular process, but it's completely unrelated to the Russia investigation.

Even Gowdy admits that the Russia investigation is legitimate, even if the Steele dossier was never created. At some point you need to face reality.



I don't think any one thinks that we don't need to keep a 24/7 watch on what Russia is doing.
I just don't think Trump had any thing to do with Russia supposedly messing with the election. They may have actually done it, but I don't think Trump was involved.
I don't believe he is talented enough to have pulled off something like that.
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Feb 18 2018 12:15pm
have a look at the full text of Mueller's indictment of those 13 russians:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43091945

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57. After the election of Donald Trump in or around November 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies in support of then president-elect Trump, while simultaneously using other false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies protesting the results of the 2016 presidential election. For example, in or around November 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators organized a rally in New York through one ORGANIZATION-controlled group designed to "show your support for President-Elect Donald Trump" held on or about November 12, 2016. At the same time, Defendants and their co-conspirators, though another ORGANIZATION-controlled group, organized a rally in New York called "Trump is NOT my President" held on or about November 12, 2016. Similarly, Defendants and their co-conspirators organized a rally entitled "Charlotte Against Trump" in Charlotte, North Carolina, held on or about November 19, 2016.


so it looks like the russians didnt want to push trump because he is Putin's crooked puppet or something like that, they just wanted to stir shit up.

it looks like the mueller investigation is not going towards "trump collusion with russia" like the leftists and democrats were hoping.

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