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Jul 13 2023 09:14pm

Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 13 2023 07:12pm)
i can just imagine you vigorously coloring the circle in the vid with your tongue sticking out. the visual really isnt for you its for the people that viewed the vid. now that you know its time to stop flirting


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Jul 14 2023 12:44am
Quote (TiStuff @ 13 Jul 2023 22:12)
i can just imagine you vigorously coloring the circle in the vid with your tongue sticking out. the visual really isnt for you its for the people that viewed the vid. now that you know its time to stop flirting


Noone is going to watch your shitty video that proves nothing lol
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Quote (addone @ Jul 14 2023 07:57am)
Lol we have thousands of pictures, records, signatures, legal documents, numerous high ranking official sources who witnessed this. Patents, videos, there are numerous people who have met Einstein in person. Lincoln was president of united States lol that's recognizable by any country on the planet as undisputed fact. We have multitude of physical memorabilia from both. We have direct decendants of Einstein, Nobel prize records etc etc etc.

All we have of Jesus is Bible and a few mention of him some 125 or 300 years later. Not a single piece of literature around the time he was alive. No official source, no some dear diary today I went to see Jesus for a sermon records. Not a single person bothered to take notes of this great messiah. It's like no one was aware or mentioned Einstein existed until 2300 then he begins to be mentioned. These Authors have never met jesus and all of a sudden writing about him +300 years later. You would think at least one of his followers would of made a footnote somewhere at the time when he was alive. Like how do you not record something as big as Resurrection healing hundreds of people, performing miracles etc. Suspicious as fuck.


What we have are the original manuscripts of Scripture that still exist.

Codex Leningradensis is the oldest Hebrew manuscript of the entire Old Testament. This codex was found in Egypt and is now at The National Library of Russia in St. Petersburg

Codex Vaticanus (“Book from the Vatican”) is one of the earliest complete manuscripts of the Bible. Written on vellum or calf’s skin, the codex has been in the Vatican Library at least since 1475.

There are four great uncial codices: Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Alexandrinus, and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus. Codex Alexandrinus was the first of the great uncial codices to be utilized for textual criticism and is considered one of the most reliable witnesses to Revelation. Codex Alexandrinus was brought to England by Eastern Orthodox Patriarch Cyril Lucar in 1621, and is now in the British Library.

https://hc.edu/museums/dunham-bible-museum/tour-of-the-museum/past-exhibits/biblical-manuscripts/#:~:text=Codex%20Leningradensis%20is%20the%20oldest,(formerly%20known%20as%20Leningrad).

Using the same criteria by which we judge other historical works, not only is the Bible reliable, it is more reliable than any other comparable writings. Reliability is a question of truthfulness and accurate copying. Writings that are historically and factually correct and that have been faithfully preserved over time would be considered reliable. Higher levels of historical verification and better confidence in transmission make it easier to determine whether an ancient work is worthy of trust. By those measures, we can consider the Bible reliable.

As is true with any historical work, not every single detail in the Bible can be directly confirmed. The Bible cannot be called unreliable simply because it contains parts which cannot be confirmed or have not yet been confirmed. What’s reasonable is to expect it to be accurate where it can be checked. This is the primary test of reliability, and here the Bible has a stellar track record. Not only have many of its historical details been confirmed, but certain portions that were once in doubt have been verified by later archaeology.

For example, archaeological finds in the 1920s confirmed the presence of cities much like Ur, described in Genesis 11, which some skeptics doubted had existed so early.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/160311-ur-iraq-trade-royal-cemetery-woolley-archaeology#:~:text=Ur%20emerged%20as%20a%20settlement,seals%20that%20mention%20the%20city.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-reliable.html

Genesis 11:27-28

27 This is the account of Terah’s family line.

Terah became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran. And Haran became the father of Lot. 28 While his father Terah was still alive, Haran died in Ur of the Chaldeans, in the land of his birth.



The Old Testament, as well, shows all evidence of being reliably transmitted. When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in the 1940s, they were 800 years older than any other available manuscripts. Comparing earlier and later manuscripts showed a meticulous approach to transmission, once again adding to our confidence that what we have today represents the original texts.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Dead-Sea-Scrolls

Present location: Israel Museum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls#:~:text=At%20the%20same%20time%20they,Book%20at%20the%20Israel%20Museum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Museum
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What we have are the original manuscripts of Scripture that still exist.

Codex Leningradensis is the oldest Hebrew manuscript of the entire Old Testament. This codex was found in Egypt and is now at The National Library of Russia in St. Petersburg

Codex Vaticanus (“Book from the Vatican”) is one of the earliest complete manuscripts of the Bible. Written on vellum or calf’s skin, the codex has been in the Vatican Library at least since 1475.

There are four great uncial codices: Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Alexandrinus, and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus. Codex Alexandrinus was the first of the great uncial codices to be utilized for textual criticism and is considered one of the most reliable witnesses to Revelation. Codex Alexandrinus was brought to England by Eastern Orthodox Patriarch Cyril Lucar in 1621, and is now in the British Library.

https://hc.edu/museums/dunham-bible-museum/tour-of-the-museum/past-exhibits/biblical-manuscripts/#:~:text=Codex%20Leningradensis%20is%20the%20oldest,(formerly%20known%20as%20Leningrad).

Using the same criteria by which we judge other historical works, not only is the Bible reliable, it is more reliable than any other comparable writings. Reliability is a question of truthfulness and accurate copying. Writings that are historically and factually correct and that have been faithfully preserved over time would be considered reliable. Higher levels of historical verification and better confidence in transmission make it easier to determine whether an ancient work is worthy of trust. By those measures, we can consider the Bible reliable.

As is true with any historical work, not every single detail in the Bible can be directly confirmed. The Bible cannot be called unreliable simply because it contains parts which cannot be confirmed or have not yet been confirmed. What’s reasonable is to expect it to be accurate where it can be checked. This is the primary test of reliability, and here the Bible has a stellar track record. Not only have many of its historical details been confirmed, but certain portions that were once in doubt have been verified by later archaeology.

For example, archaeological finds in the 1920s confirmed the presence of cities much like Ur, described in Genesis 11, which some skeptics doubted had existed so early.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/160311-ur-iraq-trade-royal-cemetery-woolley-archaeology#:~:text=Ur%20emerged%20as%20a%20settlement,seals%20that%20mention%20the%20city.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-reliable.html

Genesis 11:27-28

27 This is the account of Terah’s family line.

Terah became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran. And Haran became the father of Lot. 28 While his father Terah was still alive, Haran died in Ur of the Chaldeans, in the land of his birth.



The Old Testament, as well, shows all evidence of being reliably transmitted. When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in the 1940s, they were 800 years older than any other available manuscripts. Comparing earlier and later manuscripts showed a meticulous approach to transmission, once again adding to our confidence that what we have today represents the original texts.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Dead-Sea-Scrolls

Present location: Israel Museum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls#:~:text=At%20the%20same%20time%20they,Book%20at%20the%20Israel%20Museum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Museum


Wrong! You don't have dick. None of the original material exists all there is copies of copies. Learn to question your beliefs as you are displaying increasing levels of ignorance. Do better!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript
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Jul 14 2023 04:33am
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Wrong! You don't have dick. None of the original material exists all there is copies of copies. Learn to question your beliefs as you are displaying increasing levels of ignorance. Do better!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript


dont be a wikipedia chump
Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
wikipedia are known for being shills for hire
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Question: how do you deal with fear of death? im a newly atheist and im horrified of non existence, i used to be fine with it but im not

Answer: What year were your born? Think of the year before that. You didn’t exist. Does that thought scare you? It’s kind of the same thing…




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Quote (Vastet @ Jul 13 2023 11:44pm)
Noone is going to watch your shitty video that proves nothing lol


bunch of people gona watch it ........and all because of this thread. all because of you.



Quote (addone @ Jul 14 2023 03:39am)
Question: how do you deal with fear of death? im a newly atheist and im horrified of non existence, i used to be fine with it but im not

Answer: What year were your born? Think of the year before that. You didn’t exist. Does that thought scare you? It’s kind of the same thing…


https://i.ibb.co/FgsT0X5/images-2023-07-12-T160745-470.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/D8CG7DS/44f79f2f4bdad4320f3ade178d273bf62a68a74c5e7dd6cfe1d3136bd3c15062-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QQMWCQH/images-99.jpg


first meme is pretty accurate. sometimes i make monkey noises at atheiats oOoO EEEEkkK eeeEEKK
second meme make you fEeL better
3rd meme is funny :)

none of it is any kind of argument proving christianity false tho
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Jul 14 2023 02:19pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 14 Jul 2023 13:52)
bunch of people gona watch it ........and all because of this thread. all because of you.


No, noone is going to. Noone except the other hopelessly delusional and ignorant theists anyway. Those whose opinions mean nothing and who will never accomplish anything but the complete and total waste of existence all theists of your calibre are doomed to repeat.
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Jul 14 2023 02:50pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 14 2023 03:33am)
dont be a wikipedia chump
Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
wikipedia are known for being shills for hire


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Jul 14 2023 03:05pm
Ah the irony of a Wikipedia quoter quoting a post with "Wikipedia chump" in it. These theists aren't really even people. There's no self awareness at all.
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