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Aug 23 2020 01:18pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 23 2020 12:11pm)
I was pointing out that democracy can absolutely be in danger even if you democratically elect someone.

But yes, the PC oppression Olympics IS a problem. But guess what? Biden beat the fuck out of them. AOC, Ilhan Omar, etc. got almost no speaking time because they are cunts with no power. Instead, the Democrats gave REPUBLICANS more speaking time than them. All these Twitter cunts think they have more power than they actually do. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out, we should.

As for Trump, I think the right can and should have their counter balance. We just shouldn't have to settle for an incompetent, lying moron. Alas, it appears that the electorate actually values those things and THAT'S the danger.



Democrats go out of their way to cater to Republicans. From Obama signing the GOP healthcare alternative to Hillarycare into law, to Republicans being the shining stars of the Democratic convention, Republicans have always had a true home in the Democratic Party. Progressives on the other hand don't and likely never will.
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I was pointing out that democracy can absolutely be in danger even if you democratically elect someone.

But yes, the PC oppression Olympics IS a problem. But guess what? Biden beat the fuck out of them. AOC, Ilhan Omar, etc. got almost no speaking time because they are cunts with no power. Instead, the Democrats gave REPUBLICANS more speaking time than them. All these Twitter cunts think they have more power than they actually do. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out, we should.

As for Trump, I think the right can and should have their counter balance. We just shouldn't have to settle for an incompetent, lying moron. Alas, it appears that the electorate actually values those things and THAT'S the danger.


It's more than that. Not sure where you work but my surroundings are permeated with ideological one-sidedness that's being pushed. I worked at a large corporate bank and almost every cubicle had a rainbow flag. If i tried putting up a cross flag i would have been crucified by HR. There's a ton of this type of ideological creep that's increasingly the norm. Whether it's in the professional world or university, tv, whatever, having any semblance of conservativeness is like being a straight up white supremacist, i have a ton of anecdotal examples but you get the point.

They gave plenty of time to BLM and some of their loon demands. Defunding police, reparations are terrible ideas and hopefully democrats are only paying lip service.

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Aug 23 2020 01:47pm
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It's more than that. Not sure where you work but my surroundings are permeated with ideological one-sidedness that's being pushed. I worked at a large corporate bank and almost every cubicle had a rainbow flag. If i tried putting up a cross flag i would have been crucified by HR. There's a ton of this type of ideological creep that's increasingly the norm. Whether it's in the professional world or university, tv, whatever, having any semblance of conservativeness is like being a straight up white supremacist.

They gave plenty of time to BLM and some of their loon demands. Defunding police, reparations are terrible ideas and hopefully democrats are only paying lip service.


Um, I've worked at a number of places but I haven't really noticed much of that tbh. What is a cross flag btw? If someone complained about a display of Christianity, HR would tell them to fuck off b/c that's how you get a lawsuit. I do think that the younger generation is more intolerant but they'll grow out of that. Every generation does.
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Um, I've worked at a number of places but I haven't really noticed much of that tbh. What is a cross flag btw? If someone complained about a display of Christianity, HR would tell them to fuck off b/c that's how you get a lawsuit. I do think that the younger generation is more intolerant but they'll grow out of that. Every generation does.




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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 23 2020 03:47pm)
Um, I've worked at a number of places but I haven't really noticed much of that tbh. What is a cross flag btw? If someone complained about a display of Christianity, HR would tell them to fuck off b/c that's how you get a lawsuit. I do think that the younger generation is more intolerant but they'll grow out of that. Every generation does.



Unless you live in a red state or have no interaction with the corporate world or the academia world then you’re cognitive dissonant about anti Christian or social conservative negative sentiment.

Quick question when is the last time you brought up to your business friends that according to your Christian faith you think homosexuality is wrong or that sex should be confined within the bounds of marriage? Be honest.

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Unless you live in a red state or have no interaction with the corporate world or the academia world then you’re cognitive dissonant about anti Christian or social conservative negative sentiment.

Quick question when is the last time you brought up to your business friends that according to your Christian faith you think homosexuality is wrong or that sex should be confined within the bounds of marriage? Be honest.


But those things are both stupid, and bigoted so you should be ridiculed for still believing it.
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Unless you live in a red state or have no interaction with the corporate world or the academia world then you’re cognitive dissonant about anti Christian or social conservative negative sentiment.

Quick question when is the last time you brought up to your business friends that according to your Christian faith you think homosexuality is wrong or that sex should be confined within the bounds of marriage? Be honest.


I live in Los Angeles. The vast majority of people just don't care enough because there's a lot more to talk about than hot button issues. There is one issue that I stick out like a sore thumb and that's guns. I haven't had any issue discussing that with anyone.

As for Christian faith, I don't think there'd be an issue if you delivered the message the right way. People might think you're a bit puritanical and strange if you mentioned those things but if you're bringing those specific things up, you ARE being puritanical.
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A quick historical excursion, sorry for the offtopic:

Quote (thundercock @ 23 Aug 2020 20:35)
I mean...Hitler was democratically elected, right? They aren't mutually exclusive.


Quote (thundercock @ 23 Aug 2020 21:11)
I was pointing out that democracy can absolutely be in danger even if you democratically elect someone.


I just want to quickly point out that Hitler's nazi party never received more than 37.27% in free and fair elections, and he only came to power after the previous government had been disbanded once again and he was appointed chancellor (head of government in germany) of a minority government by the geriatric president who had listened to bad advice from his mainstream-convervative allies (who thought that Hitler was weak and they could easily keep him under control).


Furthermore, Hitler benefitted from several factors that had nothing to do with himself, his nazi party or voter support in his favor:
- First, the German parliament during that time was gridlocked to an unimaginable degree: three ideologically incompatible parties, the communist party, the nazi party and the far-right DNVP jointly held a consistent majority of the seats in parliament while being anti-democratic parties who actually wanted to abolish democracy.

- Second, the political left was splintered between the radical communists and the center-left social democrats. Over the last few free election cycles before the nazi takeover, the communist party had declared the social democrats to be "the social-fascistic main enemy" and spent a lot of their energy and campaigning on their fight against their ideological sister party and natural ally instead of the looming actual fascism. (You might see similarities to Bernie bros or inkanddagger's rhetoric about the Democratic party being "far-right" etc...)

- Third, the Reichstag fire shortly before the snap election (that Hitler had called immediately after coming to power) was blamed on the communists and weakened their public support. This helped the nazis with their terror campaign against them in the run-up to the March 1933 elections, where communists and socialists where jailed and beaten up by the thousands. The timing of this fire was so convenient for the nazis that many think it was actually a false flag operation.



Despite a campaign characterized by massive repression and terror, the nazi party still received less than 44% during this already very unfair election of March 1933, well short of a majority. Together with the far-right DNVP, they were able to form a coalition with a very narrow parliamentory majority. Two weeks later, with brownshirts and SS goons present at the parliamentary session in order to intimidate and pressure the MPs from the other parties, the pivotal Enabling Act was signed by all non-socialist parties. This act abolished the separation of power and de facto abolished the constitution, effectively handing Hitler unchecked dictatorial powers.

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Aug 23 2020 06:22pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 23 2020 07:13pm)
I live in Los Angeles. The vast majority of people just don't care enough because there's a lot more to talk about than hot button issues. There is one issue that I stick out like a sore thumb and that's guns. I haven't had any issue discussing that with anyone.

As for Christian faith, I don't think there'd be an issue if you delivered the message the right way. People might think you're a bit puritanical and strange if you mentioned those things but if you're bringing those specific things up, you ARE being puritanical.



Those things come up fairly often when the status quo is rainbow flags everywhere. Some of these discussions can only be evaded for so long. Not sure how that’s not the case in LA unless you already conceded those points and adopted the popular culture take on social conservatism.
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Aug 23 2020 06:34pm
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Those things come up fairly often when the status quo is rainbow flags everywhere. Some of these discussions can only be evaded for so long. Not sure how that’s not the case in LA unless you already conceded those points and adopted the popular culture take on social conservatism.


It's just something that's not really discussed. No one comes up to me and says, "hey can we discuss how I'm a fag?" Every homo that I know doesn't make it a main part of their identity so that probably helps I guess.

I guess a really good example is abortion. I believe life begins at conception and ultimately we just agree to disagree. Nothing ever gets heated because there's no reason for it to be. We can all coexist.
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