Quote (thesnipa @ May 2 2018 08:39am)
you know widow used to sardonically refer to any aid to the urban areas as wasted money. always referenced how projects fall apart.
if you're of the same mind do you honestly think shitty housing projects are a better use of money than food or water for people in war torn areas?
how can u justify that with anything other than american exceptionalism? do you think, unlike widow, that domestic aid has better humanitarian results than giving food/water to war torn areas?
like i get the no foreign aid perspective if you're looking at it in arming rebels, or paying ransoms and shit. but food and water for starving people? thats shitbag territory.
Pump every cent into the schools if you have to. I value American lives and well-being that much more than foreign. Between education, poverty, crime, reforms, and infrastructure, we could use every cent and I would consider it to be worth it. The only exception would be certain types of relief to areas we caused chaos in. But this is all just fantasy talk, so it doesn't really matter.
Quote (ringo794 @ May 2 2018 08:44am)
It's troubling how many people have this "us and them" mentality where they arbitrarily put a higher value on the life and happiness of those in the same country.
It's as if some amazingly powerful line exists at the border that ensures anybody outside of it is not important.
It's almost as if within these imaginary lines the idea of a nation is a common set of beliefs and law and that bind the people together, and they differ from nation to nation, and how one nation runs and what they believe could be completely contrary to another. It's almost as if poverty in America negatively effects Americans, that reducing crime and poverty would be of benefit to those within said imaginary lines rather than ones in a place like Syria. So it isn't arbitrary, placing the happiness and value of life on my own people has greater value to my own well being and advancement. It's not lost on me either that we have caused much of the turmoil in the world, it's a quagmire with no easy solution and I'm just a fuck on a d2 forum with an opinion not fit to say what should be done, but nation building has been a colossal failure and I absolutely oppose war and intervention.