Quote (tonerbond @ 24 Jan 2018 22:59)
Its because you vet war criminals into your country because he served time in jail, literally he dindu nuffin tier
I can tell you're just reeing over a guy with a brown sounding name without even looking at the story.
He served his time here in the UK. The crime was committed here in the UK. That crime was committed against Iranian nationals in the Iranian Embassy - he is not some foaming at the mouth jihadist who wants to bomb UK citizens (as far as his actions and professed ideology show us anyway) but was a member of an Arab nationalist group who were seeking independence from Iran back in the 80s when this crime was committed. He also was not 'let into the country' recently. He has been imprisoned here since Thatcher's time.
So yea - he did some bad shit but there's no reason to believe he poses a continued threat to UK nationals as the group he was a member of, which doesn't exist anymore, was fighting against the Iranian state which is entirely different from what it was then.
Quote (ampoo @ 24 Jan 2018 23:11)
serving your country to end up sleeping on your daughters couch....the dream
a guy like that should be top priority and he can call himself lucky that he had a place to go to after all
a man without family would truly sleep under the bridge by now
societies that let this happen are truly finished, one way or the other
just wait for it
Veterans get shitloads of immediate support after retirement. This chap has been running a business for over the last decade with no issues. I'm not sure if the government owes this chap any more than he is getting but he's not being treated comparitively poorly. He's getting what any other citizen gets. Does more need to be done to combat homelessness in the UK? Fuck yes. But homelessness in the US is much worse and there is much less support so if we are 'truly finished' then why do you still exist?
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 25 Jan 2018 05:50)
indeed.
I really dont see why a terrorist should be eligible for council homes at all, and particularly not while there are still any law-abiding citizens on the waiting list.
Here in the UK we attempt to house our criminals as part of rehabilitation after jail time. They are generally housed in BnBs or hostels while they are on the waiting list for a council house. None of us knows how long this guy waited for a house.
If we just chucked people out of prison and onto the street with no resources then they would be much more likely to reoffend and much harder to monitor. System isn't perfect but it's not half as stupid as what you're proposing.
This isn't a case of both of them on the waiting list at the same time and the ex-con being chosen of the ex-army guy. They don't even live in the same area and so different councils would be dealing with them anyway. But the ex-con was released on parole in '05. If we left criminals on the street for 13 years after their release with no support then we'd basically be guaranteeing they reoffend out of necessity... even if it's only shoplifting to get food.
If all this makes me a 'regressive left, muslim loving SJW' in your eyes then y'all need to take a fucking minute to think about the kind of hysterical reactions you have to stories like this. All I'm doing is looking rationally at the case and pointing out that it is much more complicated and much different than two lines in a tweet from an idiot like Piers Morgan make it look. Is it an ideal situation? No. But is it the collapse of western civilisation through the collective offering up of UK buttholes to get fucked by ISIS loving jihadis? Not even fucking close. It's not even related to modern day wahabbist terrorism in any way shape or form.