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Sep 4 2016 04:41pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 4 2016 04:29pm)
It's definitely not easy to eat that little for an extended period of time. Not overly hard either though if you have a good meal plan which you stick to. People also don't realize that when they're overweight and lose weight that the fat cells never go away so they need to maintain a larger deficit than someone who was never heavy in the first place.

Not sure what this means. Exersice will increase someone's bmr.


There's recent evidence that the opposite is true, and its been accepted that exercise doesn't significantly contribute to weight compared to adjusting diet.
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Sep 4 2016 04:49pm
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There's recent evidence that the opposite is true, and its been accepted that exercise doesn't significantly contribute to weight compared to adjusting diet.



Well weight loss just comes down to energy balance. If you maintain a calorie deficit with diet alone you won't need to exercise to lose weight. If you are not in a deficit through diet then exercise will burn calories to put you in a deficit which will cause you to lose weight. So I do agree diet is more important. But the benefit of exercising to lose weight is that you can eat a lot more than you otherwise could if you didn't exercise which leads to better results in my experience.

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Sep 4 2016 04:58pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 4 2016 05:41pm)
There's recent evidence that the opposite is true, and its been accepted that exercise doesn't significantly contribute to weight compared to adjusting diet.


hasn't the evidence always stated you can't outrun a bad diet
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Sep 4 2016 05:05pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 4 2016 04:49pm)
Well weight loss just comes down to energy balance. If you maintain a calorie deficit with diet alone you won't need to exercise to lose weight. If you are not in a deficit through diet then exercise will burn calories to put you in a deficit which will cause you to lose weight. So I do agree diet is more important. But the benefit of exercising to lose weight is that you can eat a lot more than you otherwise could if you didn't exercise which leads to better results in my experience.


"A lot" being one soda, or one slice of pizza. Even so they've found very active societies don't burn more than a sedentary American on average. It's theorized the reason is because your body compensates for exercise by lowering basal metabolism in the long term. Basal metabolism us 70% of your energy expenditure anyway so it takes a smaller drop to compensate than you would expect.
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Sep 4 2016 05:12pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 4 2016 05:05pm)
"A lot" being one soda, or one slice of pizza. Even so they've found very active societies don't burn more than a sedentary American on average. It's theorized the reason is because your body compensates for exercise by lowering basal metabolism in the long term. Basal metabolism us 70% of your energy expenditure anyway so it takes a smaller drop to compensate than you would expect.


How much you burn depends on the intensity of your workout. If you burn 500 calories doing HIIT cardio than you can eat quite a bit of food than you otherwise could have eaten. And yes an additional 500 calories is a lot of wiggle room when on a meal plan.
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Sep 4 2016 05:13pm
Im still waiting to be shamed.
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Sep 4 2016 05:18pm
Yes.
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Im still waiting to be shamed.


this is what your body looks like at the moment, do you feel no shame for what you're doing to it?

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Sep 10 2016 04:48pm
it appears society has degraded below accepting fat people to attacking fit people

can feel the jealousy and hatred oozing out of these people on publicly accessible social media
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