yep just dont tell the anti-Trump legion of losers that; they’ll call you a racist for doing so

I wouldn't necessarily say it's irrelevant. Definitely incomplete though.

Obviously vocabulary level is only one factor in communication skills. For some people, it can be indicative of an overall problem, but on its own doesn't necessarily indicate one.

well, trumps simple language imho was one of the contributing factors of his victory. it helped him assume the role of the "anti-elite, common people's" candidate despite being a billionaire who was raised with a golden spoon. it helped him deliver his message effectively because he conveyed it in words that the audience would use as well. to achieve the "he tells it like it is"-effect, a candidate has to use common people's language.

obama's speeches were always rhetorically brilliant and a joy to listen to - but I really doubt that he always got his message across effectively, particularly with less-educated listeners.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 15 2018 03:49pm

Anytime someone say imho i assume all their other opinions were dishonest.

do you think roosevelt and truman also claimed they were geniuses, like, really smart? and while i agree with the general sentiment that this can hardly be the single deciding metric to determine a president's competence, the significant difference between him and other presidents still speaks volumes about his intelligence (especially if you keep in mind his own claims about his vocabulary and negotiation competence for example) and truthfulness.
i mean, just listen to (or read) ANY of his interviews, like the recent one in WSJ - does it really give you the impression of someone who knows what they are doing or even talking about? it's a complete mess of unfinished thoughts and sentences, constant bragging, inability to remain focus and on topic, and failure to grasp even the most basic of concepts. at some point you're insulting your own intelligence by pretending this is completely irrelevant - or even acting like it's deliberate to better communicate with his base (holy mother of shitty rationalisations)...

Pretty classist to assume 'common people' can't cope with anything more complex than a fourth grade vocabulary.

pretty "of the aristocracy" to not know its true. simple people are mostly dumb with really really low vocabularies. they're nice people who shouldnt be spoken down to, but spoken down of is fine.

Tell that to my pub quiz team lol.
I know plenty of 'simple folk' by which I assume you mean working class people who didn't go to university.
Maybe it's different in america or maybe I just hang out with the more intelligent among them and avoid the idiot majority but just speaking from experience I think they can handle more than Trump puts out.

thats not what I meant. the matter of the fact, however, is that almost everyone is using a lower linguistic level for everyday conversations than what one could put out or digest. we dont reach for the max of our verbal ability in everyday conversations.

so, for example, I believe that the majority of americans could comprehend obama's speeches, but they were different from what common americans are used to during workplace or familiy conversations. all I was saying is that it is easier to reach voters on an emotional level if your message is conveyed in this everyday language instead of "coming from a different sphere".

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 15 2018 04:50pm

simply untrue and I already linked you this 6+ months ago
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/311381/donald-trumps-run-on-sentences

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Jan 15 2018 04:51pm