Sigh... a law only means something if its enforced. If Israel passed a law tomorrow forbidding you to breathe would you just hold your breath? Israels top ministers, generals and courts have completely and utterly ignored war crimes committed during the gaza genocide and long before that and it continues to do so. They acquitted soldiers raping a palestinan on camera for gods sake.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/02/idf-no-fault-conclusion-alleged-war-abuse-cases-report
https://www.972mag.com/israeli-soldiers-impunity-yesh-din/

it's quite clear in my mind that the only reason israel is even trying to appear responsible and moderate in their savagery is because international media and online reports of their cruelty is being transmitted.

You are completely misrepresenting the facts of the case you just linked.
Those soldiers were not 'acquitted' because the court decided rape is fine. The charges were dropped by the Military Advocate General due to major legal and procedural obstacles: namely, the detainee was released back to Gaza as part of the late-2025 ceasefire and hostage exchange deal. Under a civilized rule of law, you cannot hold a criminal trial and secure a valid conviction when the primary witness is completely unavailable for cross-examination. Furthermore, the trial was legally compromised by procedural misconduct when the previous top military lawyer leaked the investigation's video to the press.
You’re using a case where the military police literally raided their own base, arrested their own soldiers, and filed indictments to argue that Israel doesn't enforce its laws. The internal political and legal fight over Sde Teiman is absolute proof that Israel has a fiercely independent legal system that aggressively scrutinizes its own military.
Meanwhile, you still haven't answered my question. Where is the Hamas or Hezbollah equivalent? Where are their military police arresting fighters for using human shields, executing hostages, or raping Israeli women on October 7th? They don't have one, because those actions aren't rogue crimes to them they are the strategy.
Israel faces massive international media scrutiny precisely because it is a transparent democracy that investigates its own faults. Hiding behind procedural court dismissals to call a defensive urban war 'savagery' is just intellectual laziness.

I am asking for his response. I already have your response from the other day remember.

EndlessSky, Israel bombed Gaza into the stone age. As for the civilians it kills - they were in a war zone and its Hamas fault that they died is the argument. At the same time, Israel used human shields in Gaza, and its Hamas fault that they died too ? Because Israel would not have used human shields if Hamas did not attack in the first place? or, one could say it was misconduct on the part of a person or an entity, or we say, its a baseless lie, therefore...we cant, or refuse to, condemn the action?

ultimately, say there are two countries at war - Ukraine and Russia. Russia bombs a school full of kids - We all know this is wrong and we condemn it. Ukraine bombs a school full of kids - excuses ensue, (because we live in the west, and Ukraine goody, Russia baddy!) but deep down we know we have to condemn that as well.

We are not saying that Russia, or Ukraine is right, or that Hamas or Israel is right, we are saying that neither is above account and it is wrong to do certain things.

so, back to either you condemn a warcrime (regardless of who commits it) or you dont. I will not bring this up again and I have no control over whether you respond or not.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 3 2026 01:25am

You are trying to trap us into a cheap binary choice because you want to create a false moral equivalence.
There is a massive difference between a democratic army fighting a brutal defensive war where tragic collateral damage happens, and a terrorist organization that explicitly sets out to commit atrocities as a strategy.
Let's look at the reality of October 7th. Hamas didn't accidentally bomb a school during a military engagement. They intentionally invaded sovereign Israeli territory with GoPro cameras strapped to their chests and helms, explicitly to document themselves slaughtering families in their beds, executing teenagers at a music festival, and systematically raping women. Their goal wasn't a military objective; their goal was maximum sadistic horror, recorded live to provoke our neighbors into joining a total war of annihilation against us.
Comparing a democratic country's army which uses precision strikes, phone calls, and leaflets to evacuate civilians before hitting military targets to a terrorist group that explicitly targets civilians and broadcasts the footage for PR is a moral failure on your part.
International law recognizes a difference between the tragic, unintended deaths of civilians used as shields by terrorists, and the deliberate murder of civilians as a primary objective. I condemn Hamas because murder is their policy. I stand with Israel because defense is our survival. You can call that 'making excuses' all you want, but we don't have the luxury of your detached western moralizing when our children's lives are on the line

But you're doing the same thing right now

Again, I was addressing another user, not you. We already acknowledged your position.

Happy 666th page!