Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 08:01pm)
Yes.
I'm not sure specifics, but I think it important to identify core values to establish a foundation upon which specifics can be figured out. Those that come to mind would be for the acute situation:
1. Every reasonable effort should be made to diminish the amount of civilian causalities. While I sympathize with the desire to not give Hamas and their supporters more time to plan attacks/boobytrap the area, 24 hours to evacuate 1 million+ people is untenable and aid organizations and hospitals in Gaza have raised concerns. Some of these concerns have been met by Israel in the form of an extension (ie. Israel gave more time for the hospital to evacuate).
2. Every reasonable effort should be made to diminish the amount of civilian suffering (ie. I don't see myself currently agreeing with the decision to cut off water and electricity, although I can sympathize with the desire to do so).
3. Internal messaging within Israel should be on the distinction between Palestinian people and Hamas.
4. Israel needs to be honest about what the plan is for Gaza. Are they going to capture it? Level it? Establish a DMZ buffer after trying to weed Hamas out of the region?
5. Personally, I'd prefer to see an international/UN response rather than Israel making unilateral decisions. Israel is in a state of rage, and decisions are likely to be hasty as a result.
6. Long term: A genuine two-state solution will be needed. Israel needs to stop illegal settlements and correct the ones already made. Palestine needs to cleanse its society of Hamas, have a democratic election, and needs to eradicate the anti-Semitism from their people.
1. This notion that Israel gave no warning or time to evacutate is not true. The attack happened last Saturday, and subsequently they gave dozens of warnings innitially to leave certain areas.
2. Cutting off food, water, energy is done (at least in my opion) to cause civillian movement. Without cutting it off, there is no immediate urgency. Once people are literally starving they are going to head where they are told to.
3. No one cares about the messaging about good or bad Muslims. Recollect 9/11, personally all I remember is everyone in the US seeing red and not giving two shits about collateral damage.
4. They don't have to be honest about anything. It's an active war and they aren't goin to broadcast their moves to the open world. Hamas knowing exactly what will happen would be an intelligence failure for Israel.
5. UN is a largely useless and powerless organization that rarely if ever accomplishes anything. In theory I agree, in practice it just means they Jews do nothing and get no retribution.
6. Agree on two-state, but i'm talking about the immediate.