Quote (Sankturio @ 23 Jun 2026 15:04)

I refuse to believe that you lack the cognitive abilities to understand it takes two to tango.
BOTH sides are to blame.
Both sides have religious extremism. The orthodox Jews are as fucked up in my understanding as jihadists. Completely insane.

To account for your country's mistakes is the first step.

Quote (Sankturio @ 23 Jun 2026 16:20)

suuuuure. make it a left and right thing.
or even better - make it an apartheid issue.
Whites of Israel -> life has value
Everyone else over there -> little to no value.

Gosh and then we are all so suprised no1 likes u :cry:

E: And yes! There certainly is an issue with uninformed bystanders in a global audience that tend to root for the underdog that doesn't have 1 of the worlds finest military and secret service.
I do not chant for palastine. But I understand that all the injustice Palastinians are facing it's a perfect breeding ground for terrorism.

You wanna stop terrorism?
Work on the root causes instead of chopping off another head of the hydra.

Quote (Many_Names @ 23 Jun 2026 15:37)

Israel is a secular country, orthodox jews are irrelevant..

Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 23 2026 06:37am)

Israel is a secular country, orthodox jews are irrelevant..
We have nothing against Muslims.

Quote (Many_Names @ 23 Jun 2026 15:27)

You are grabbing isolated, out-of-context soundbites to avoid facing the reality of who we were actually fighting.
First, Netanyahu never called the Palestinians 'Amalek.' He simply quoted a passage from the Torah regarding our eternal enemies who attack the weak and innocent, explicitly referencing Hamas after the October 7th massacres.
Second, Israel Katz’s job at the time was to put maximum pressure on Hamas while thousands of rockets were actively raining down on our heads and our people were held captive.

Finally, you are twisting yourself into knots to defend a terrorist organization that has clearly stated its goals from day one. Hamas has never hidden its intentions; they openly declared they would destroy Israel, they executed exactly what they said they would do, and they still state to this day that they would do it all over again given the chance. You can keep twisting rhetoric, but the operational facts show an army fighting a fanatical death cult, not a population.

Quote (gnarjay @ 23 Jun 2026 19:25)

If Orthodox Jews are 'irrelevant,' why do governments keep depending on religious parties to stay in power? And if Israel has 'nothing against Muslims,' why have relations between Jewish and Arab communities been one of the central political issues in the country for generations? Your statement isn't an argument—it's a slogan contradicted by the country's own politics.

Quote (Sankturio @ 23 Jun 2026 16:42)

Orthodox Jews in Israel have significant social and political influence, but the impact varies a lot between the ultraorthodox (Haredim), national-religious groups, and Orthodox communities more broadly. Their influence is strongest in coalition politics, religious law, education, and questions like military service, while their growing population also makes them increasingly important demographically.


Main areas of impact
Coalition politics: Ultraorthodox parties often hold decisive seats in fragmented parliaments, so they can shape governments and extract policy concessions.
Military service: Exemptions for many ultraorthodox men from conscription are one of the most contested issues in Israeli politics and society.
Religious policy: Orthodox parties influence marriage, divorce, conversion, Sabbath rules, and public religious standards through the state religious system.
Education and welfare: Ultraorthodox communities often have distinct school systems and receive substantial public support, which is politically contentious.
Demographics: High birth rates in ultraorthodox families are steadily increasing their share of the population, which raises their long-term political.

The key point is that orthodox Jews are not a single political bloc, and their influence is not uniform across Israeli society. But ultraorthodox growth and their role in coalition politics make them one of the most consequential forces in contemporary Israel.


I don't like it myself bud. But it's important to face reality.
And if you don't want to.
Play some d2 ^_^

Quote (DocPhil @ 23 Jun 2026 20:02)

Israel right now is attacking the weak and innocent. +80,000 killed +26,000 kids. They have been doing so for more than 80 years. It's time to put the hammer down and not accept israeli propaganda, lies and excuses. The world has had enough and soon you will be standing alone and the world will give you the cold shoulder. You do not deserve to be part of an international modern society when you act like savages. Do better.

Quote (Sankturio @ 23 Jun 2026 20:58)

Taking on Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia ALONE?
Tall order :hail: