Quote (fender @ Aug 25 2018 09:22pm)

thank you, dorothy. this just confirms EXACTLY what i thought. half-joking on your part or not, the fact that my comment qualifies as anti-semitism to you, even though i explicitly made the connection to the average british voter (not that it was even necessary, only a true bigot or someone extremely dishonest and trying to create something that just isn't there would even look at it that way), just perfectly illustrates the kind of 'logic' behind your really transparent efforts to portray corbyn as some kind of jew hating mastermind.

just like the whole mural conspiracy, it requires your OWN preconceived notions to be projected into someone else's beliefs, in order to construct these accusations in the first place.

really sad that this seems to work with so many people, but unfortunately that's not unique to this story, we see it all over the world these days...

Quote (ampoo @ 25 Aug 2018 21:26)

absolutely shocking

not suprising fender tries to defend this kind of behavior though, spreading hamas propaganda when israel is defending its territory against terrorists that want to wipe the country and its people out

Quote (dro94 @ 25 Aug 2018 21:33)

If you genuinely believe pointing out Corbyn supporting a mural of NWO hooked nose bankers makes ME anti-semitic then you're even more ignorant than I could have imagined.

Corbyn's track record speaks for itself

Quote (fender @ Aug 25 2018 03:37pm)

i think it makes YOU the ignorant one, but hey, this is the kind of projection i already pointed out is necessary to construct these cases of 'anti-semitism' you also thought you discovered in MY post...

your track record speaks for itself.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 25 2018 08:44pm)

you deform reality, and i dont know exactly why specifically on this point, are you personaly involved or something ?

In 2015, 2016 and 2017, the Campaign Against Antisemitism commissioned YouGov to carry out a survey into British attitudes towards Jews which found that Labour Party supporters were less likely to hold antisemitic views than supporters of the Conservative Party or the UK Independence Party (UKIP), and Liberal Democrats supporters were the least likely to hold antisemitic views. 32% of Labour supporters endorsed at least one antisemitic attitude, compared to 30% of Liberal Democrat supporters, 39% of UKIP supporters, and 40% of Conservative supporters.

In clear words you better focus your anti-semitic obsession elsewhere.

Quote (Knoppie @ Aug 26 2018 12:41pm)

Lol, that's probably because Conservatives and Eurosceptic (/isolationist) parties attract the most racists.. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the outlandish social media posts made by "Corbyn supporters" were trolls. (Conservatives/Ukippers/Zionists, or just Dro).
Imo we're nearing a time where antisemitism should be treated more equal to racism. I don't really see why anti Jewish sentiments are condemned more than any other anti [race, tribe or religious group] sentiment. I do understand it for our recent history, the word seems a bit out-dated right now..

So Dro, how do you feel about degrading antisemitism to racism ?

Quote (dro94 @ Aug 26 2018 01:06pm)

(@ bolded) Are they? Where is your evidence for this?

Anti-semitism operates in a different way to racism. Usually racist attitudes come in the form of 'they're poor, unintelligent and engage in crime'. Jews are the only instance of racism where they're actually thought of as the opposite; controlling the world, banks and media, which as a result creates a different lens through which anti-semitism is peddled.

Quote (Knoppie @ Aug 26 2018 01:38pm)

I can't think of a politician in Europe to be fired over racism? Or reporters fired over racism. While when it comes to slightly misrepresenting the situation in Israel, all hell breaks loose, in occasion, leading towards ppl being fired, like in Labour.

As for racism, racial differences are pointed out to induce fear of their tribe could be winning over ours in the future, with us not being the majority in our world, or not being in control of it. I don't see much difference in the urge to marginalize groups in order to maintain the perceived status quo. Antisemitism, doesn't look different to me.

Quote (dro94 @ Aug 26 2018 01:45pm)

Actually it's the opposite that's happening. Jews are being targeted as Zionists by guys like Corbyn and then they're hiding behind it being legitimate criticism of Israel when it isn't. It's so easy to deflect away accusations of anti-semitism by saying, 'hey it's just about Israel'.

If I was Theresa May I'd have removed Boris Johnson from the cabinet for his comments about Muslims. I'm the only person here that's taking a morally consistent line on this issue, I can't make you see it I can only show you.

Quote (Knoppie @ Aug 26 2018 02:30pm)

Corbyn is in a group pro Palestine. That is politically sound as more politicians are in the group pro Israel. In Israel you have a form of apartheid and racism towards Palestinians from within the Israeli government, there is even a wall around Gaza and I have pledged to go there on holidays when the wall falls. Ppl saying you can't be critical of Israel for racist reasons are the pots calling the kettle black. Racism is one of the main reasons to be critical about Israel.

As for Boris.. I'd be hesitant in fireing politicians for their opinion in politics. Imo politicians can go a bit further to express their ideals and have a debate.