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Jun 15 2026 10:34pm
whats with netanyahu trying to block the investigation into Oct 7?


Because there's an election coming soon and his government was in charge when the Oct 7 attacks happened.

Doesn't matter if it was just an epic failure of the security/intelligence apparatus under Netanyahu's watch, or if there truly was some deep, nefarious conspiracy - either way, the details of the failure coming to light is politically disastrous for Bibi. And he's already a dead man walking to begin with, politically speaking.

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Just about everything falls into one category or the other as far as I can tell heh

But ^ferdia tried to make the argument that your posts are not "anti-zionist". So silly. I don't think you would even agree with that assessment, would you?


what about the Ex Israeli defense minster? is he racist?



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Israel's former defence minister has compared settler ideology to Nazism, and accused authorities of failing to investigate Israelis responsible for killing Palestinian civilians in the occupied West Bank.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Israeli news site Ynet on Sunday, Moshe Ya'alon said that factions within the religious Zionist movement, which is closely aligned with Israeli settlers, hold a "Jewish supremacy ideology".

"What is Jewish supremacy? Eighty years after the Holocaust, it's Mein Kampf in reverse. The superior race is us," said Ya'alon, who served as defence under Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu between 2013 to 2016.

Ya'alon, who also recently visited Palestinian communities in the occupied West Bank amid attacks by the Israeli army and settlers, described what is happening in the territory as a "disgrace for generations".

"The Israeli government is encouraging Jewish pogromists to dispossess Arabs of their land through abuse, including shooting at them," Ya'alon told Ynet, adding that more than 20 Palestinians had been killed in those attacks.


"Not a single person has been arrested," Ya'alon said, referring to what he described as a lack of accountability for Israeli settlers and soldiers in the West Bank.

He added that the Shin Bet security agency and Israeli police were doing nothing to address the killings.

Ya'alon said that during a visit to the southern Hebron area he witnessed the conditions Palestinians are facing. He said he spoke with a Palestinian man who lost his leg after settlers shot him and then prevented him from receiving medical assistance.

Settler attacks against Palestinians have surged since Israel launched its genocidal war on Gaza in October 2023, with the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) recording an average of four a day.

The attacks, some of which have been recorded on video, have raised concerns among opposition figures, including Ya'alon, over both their security implications and moral consequences.

Left-wing figures have increasingly described Israeli policies in the West Bank as criminal.

Earlier this month, Nimrod Sheffer, a candidate in the primaries of the centre-left Democrats party, described a settler attack in the town of Huwara, near Nablus, as a "terror attack".

Last week, Sheffer vowed to dismantle settler outposts occupied by young and often violent settlers if elected. In many cases, those outposts serve as bases for settlers known as the "hilltop youth", who have been linked to attacks on Palestinians.

Army chief turned critic
Ya’alon spent decades in the Israeli military and is known to have taken part in the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, the violent suppression of the first and second Palestinian intifadas, and the 2014 war on Gaza.

In 2002, whilst serving as the army's chief of staff, he said: "The Palestinian threat harbours cancer-like attributes that have to be severed and fought to the bitter end."

And in 2015, he barred Breaking the Silence – an NGO of former Israeli soldiers who document army abuses – from engaging in activities with the military.

But in recent years, the 75-year-old has adopted a more critical tone towards the current government, accusing it in 2024 of carrying out ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Reflecting on his time as army commander in the West Bank, Ya'alon said that he had acted to prevent the occupation from turning Israelis into "Judeo-Nazis", as the late Israeli scholar Yeshayahu Leibowitz had once warned.
"Today, I can’t say he was wrong," Ya'alon said, referring to Leibowitz's claim, adding that he hopes "the next government will reverse this".

Ya'alon said Palestinians are being abused in the West Bank and that he is "ashamed that members of my own people are doing such things. And it is being done under government direction."

Asked whether Israel could become an apartheid state, the former army chief replied: "absolutely," adding that he supports "a settlement with the Palestinians".

"Otherwise, we will become either an apartheid state or a binational state," Ya'alon said, after noting that he does not support removing Israeli settlements from the West Bank.

The former defence minister, who retired from politics in 2021, also criticised opposition leaders for failing to commit to including a Palestinian party in a future governing coalition.

"My shared values with Mansour Abbas are greater than those I share with Smotrich and Ben Gvir," Ya'alon said, referring to the leader of the Islamist United Arab List party in the Knesset.

Abbas has openly declared his desire to be part of a governing coalition, in contrast to the historic position of Palestinian parties in Israel.



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Jun 16 2026 11:04am
what about the Ex Israeli defense minster? is he racist?

https://i.imgur.com/j3DD3C3.jpeg


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Jun 16 2026 11:33am
If you answer my question, I'll answer yours


you never answered mine to begin with. i asked what i said that was racist or anti semitic and you said ' well, everything '

thats a non starter for good faith debate
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Jun 16 2026 05:05pm
you never answered mine to begin with. i asked what i said that was racist or anti semitic and you said ' well, everything '

thats a non starter for good faith debate


No, you said racist or wrong.

To be clear, I do not care if you are racist, not even a little bit. I think you're dumb and your opinions are therefore weakly formed. You want to believe whatever you already believe and, like I said, you are willing to believe even literally impossible claims so long as they reinforce your preconceived notions. That sucks, but again I don't really care. I think you're harmless. Not causing harm is good, say whatever you want.

The point of the post you replied to was not that you are racist, it was that you are obviously an anti-zionist. That's fine with me also, I was just making fun of for trying to pretend otherwise.

I was not trying to start a debate with you of any sort, I just asked you a question about yourself. I understand if you don't want to answer because it would feel like you are joining me in having a little laugh at that silly post. You should laugh at silly things tho, your signature says "Israel is not a country", obviously you are a self-aware anti-zionist. By the way, you misspelled element in your commie gobbledygook Eugene Debbs quote.
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Jun 16 2026 05:10pm
i contributed to this thread somewhere. looks like its lost its traction due to yall getting emotional. chin up bud.
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Jun 16 2026 05:49pm
No, you said racist or wrong.

To be clear, I do not care if you are racist, not even a little bit. I think you're dumb and your opinions are therefore weakly formed. You want to believe whatever you already believe and, like I said, you are willing to believe even literally impossible claims so long as they reinforce your preconceived notions. That sucks, but again I don't really care. I think you're harmless. Not causing harm is good, say whatever you want.

The point of the post you replied to was not that you are racist, it was that you are obviously an anti-zionist. That's fine with me also, I was just making fun of ^ferdia for trying to pretend otherwise.

I was not trying to start a debate with you of any sort, I just asked you a question about yourself. I understand if you don't want to answer because it would feel like you are joining me in having a little laugh at that silly post. You should laugh at silly things tho, your signature says "Israel is not a country", obviously you are a self-aware anti-zionist. By the way, you misspelled element in your commie gobbledygook Eugene Debbs quote.


Im more open to being proven wrong than most, Ive changed my stance on some pretty serious subjects throughout my life especially as an adult
Im not sure what you'd like to change my mind about but i am all ears for you

am i an anti-zionist? abso fuckin lutely. i am an anti-imperialist and obviously anti genocide so i think you already knew the answer to your own question, you just have some weird gotcha to prove to (whom i respect greatly )
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Jun 16 2026 05:56pm
Just about everything falls into one category or the other as far as I can tell heh

But ^ferdia tried to make the argument that your posts are not "anti-zionist". So silly. I don't think you would even agree with that assessment, would you?


I have intentionally refrained from engaging with you because I've noticed a recurring pattern: rather than addressing the content of posts, you frequently attack the people making them. In the example above, a screenshot was posted as evidence of a claim. Rather than discussing the content or explaining why the evidence was flawed, you dismissed it by labelling the poster. This appears to be a common approach in your discussions.

Over the last several days, I have repeatedly seen you resort to personal attacks, insults, and demeaning language when disagreeing with others. Whether your arguments are correct or incorrect is beside the point; the manner in which you engage makes productive discussion impossible. For that reason, I see no benefit in continuing a conversation with you. You are free to express your views, but I have no interest in engaging with someone whose default response to disagreement is hostility toward other users rather than discussion of the topic itself.

Moving on (and staying on topic)

Iran’s army says Israel has violated the ceasefire in southern Lebanon 84 times since the US-Iran deal was announced on Sunday, adding that the aggressor “should expect a harsh response” if the attacks continue.
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