sure, don't get me wrong, ofc there is still anti-semitism in europe. not just your traditional right-wing anti-semitism, but it's also pretty blatant and wide spread amongst muslim immigrants - and yes, i'm sure you will find the odd leftist who also finds a way to rationalise that into his belief system.
but the notion that it's somehow a prominent left-wing sentiment is nothing short of ridiculous and clearly politically motivated.

and just to be clear, palestine political leadership doesn't really make it easy to support the cause of their PEOPLE.

I can't make you see it, I can only show you

Oi cheeky bloke, you got a permit for that vision?

more like you can't really show it, so you help creating it.

Why did Corbyn say the party has a problem with anti-semitism then?

Why do 83% of british jews think the labour party is too tolerant of anti-semitism and only 13% intend to vote for labour in the next general election, significantly down from pre Corbyn?

Why are labour MP's turning on Corbyn saying he's a disgrace?

Corbyn is the one supporting murals of hooked nose bankers, laying wreaths on the graves of the munich olympics terrorists, referring to 'zionists' that have 'been in the country for most or all their lives', and refusing to adopt globally accepted guidelines of what constitutes anti-semitism for his party's own internal proceedings.

b..b..but he's just being pro palestine!



This post was edited by dro94 on Aug 25 2018 01:43pm

you deform reality, and i dont know exactly why specifically on this point, are you personaly involved or something ?

In 2015, 2016 and 2017, the Campaign Against Antisemitism commissioned YouGov to carry out a survey into British attitudes towards Jews which found that Labour Party supporters were less likely to hold antisemitic views than supporters of the Conservative Party or the UK Independence Party (UKIP), and Liberal Democrats supporters were the least likely to hold antisemitic views. 32% of Labour supporters endorsed at least one antisemitic attitude, compared to 30% of Liberal Democrat supporters, 39% of UKIP supporters, and 40% of Conservative supporters.

In clear words you better focus your anti-semitic obsession elsewhere.

media pressure, digging for something that can be represented as such to get a statement of him acknowledging it. again, for the slow readers: "i'm sure you will find the odd leftist who also finds a way to rationalise that into his belief system".
the much more interesting part is - why are you still trying to make it look like he somehow supports anti-semitism then? you can't have your cake and eat it. nice own goal...

and again my question that you dodged earlier: what possible reason could 'the left' have to be anti-semitic? your whole narrative doesn't even make sense...

concerning public opinion against him and labour it just shows that the narrative is successful - you act like those surveys were conducted with politically informed participants while in reality we have all seen in the recent past how 'informed' the average british voter really is.
by the same token you could argue that our government is anti-muslim, because if you ask turkish muslims here they think their home country is being unfairly attacked by racist germans when we point out what a fundamentalist dictator erdogan is...

This post was edited by fender on Aug 25 2018 01:53pm

What a surprise, fenderp thinks those poor Jews can't think for themselves and have been brainwashed into thinking they've been unfairly treated.

It's largely down to the equivalence between Jews in this country and the actions of Israel as a state. Israel's involvement in human rights abuses, illegal settlements on the west bank and the general plight of the Palestinian people has been used to implicate Jews, whether they're Zionists or not. You can clearly see this link by the rise in anti-semitic attacks in the immediate aftermath of clashes between Israel and Palestine. Many labour members of the Corbyn cult, as well as Corbyn himself, also make this equivalence.

There is also the Jews run the world narrative but that's equally as endemic on the right wing. The above is more specific to left wing anti-semitism.

thank you, dorothy. this just confirms EXACTLY what i thought. half-joking on your part or not, the fact that my comment qualifies as anti-semitism to you, even though i explicitly made the connection to the average british voter (not that it was even necessary, only a true bigot or someone extremely dishonest and trying to create something that just isn't there would even look at it that way), just perfectly illustrates the kind of 'logic' behind your really transparent efforts to portray corbyn as some kind of jew hating mastermind.

just like the whole mural conspiracy, it requires your OWN preconceived notions to be projected into someone else's beliefs, in order to construct these accusations in the first place.

really sad that this seems to work with so many people, but unfortunately that's not unique to this story, we see it all over the world these days...

This post was edited by fender on Aug 25 2018 02:23pm

absolutely shocking

not suprising fender tries to defend this kind of behavior though, spreading hamas propaganda when israel is defending its territory against terrorists that want to wipe the country and its people out