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Oct 13 2023 05:27pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 13 2023 05:19pm)
Your version of empathy for the Israeli victims was to say I condemn the attacks then spend posting dozens upon dozens of posts about why it happened and how if the Jews didn't do X or Y it would have never happened.

Children are dying and going to die, which is shitty but the thing that so many of you want to happen is basically inaction, which obviously is not going to happen. There is no way to separate the civilian from the militant in Gaza. So Israel has only two choices do nothing and just accept it will be victimized once again or do something and accept the collateral damage that comes with it. The latter is happening.


That's what you have read? You clearly didn't actually read, most are just calling for immediate aid put where possible, bigger time periods for evacuation, maintaining power to hospitals and food supply lines and medical to those hospitals.

Not a single person here has called for inaction I can see.

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Oct 13 2023 05:28pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 07:22pm)
One thing that I do think is a fair point within this post, is the implication about what Israel's response should be in this situation. I would be surprised to hear people in PaRD advocate that inaction is what they would deem appropriate, but remain open to being surprised.


Hamas has hundreds of tunnels, bunkers, defensive underground installations. Israelis going boots on the ground into Gaza to weed them without initial airstrikes would be devastatingly costly. Hamas is also expecting this so they have prepared traps, IED's, have anti-armor weapons.

There is no half measures or light touches, if they take that path, they will end up with 5 figures in dead IDF soldiers.

Quote (SBD @ Oct 13 2023 07:27pm)
That's what you have read? You clearly didn't actually read, most are just calling for immediate aid put where possible, bigger time periods for evacuation, maintaining power to hospitals and food supply lines and medical to those hospitals.

Not a single person here has called for inaction I can see.



It's been a week, the gaza strip is 25 miles long. Even kids can walk that in that amount of time and the Jews made it pretty obvious and gave warnings that the bombs are coming into specific places (such as Gaza city)

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Oct 13 2023 05:33pm
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Oct 13 2023 05:30pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 14 Oct 2023 07:28)
Hamas has hundreds of tunnels, bunkers, defensive underground installations. Israelis going boots on the ground into Gaza to weed them without initial airstrikes would devastatingly costly. Hamas is also expecting this so they have prepared traps, IED's, have anti-armor weapons.

There is no half measures or light touches, if they take that path, they will end up with 5 figures in dead IDF soldiers.


I think I said that earlier in this thread, they are luring IDF into Gaza with the attack 5 days back.
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Oct 13 2023 05:32pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 13 2023 06:28pm)
Hamas has hundreds of tunnels, bunkers, defensive underground installations. Israelis going boots on the ground into Gaza to weed them without initial airstrikes would be devastatingly costly. Hamas is also expecting this so they have prepared traps, IED's, have anti-armor weapons.

There is no half measures or light touches, if they take that path, they will end up with 5 figures in dead IDF soldiers.


I agree. Which is why they should be preparing humanitarian aid for the civilians as they evacuate in response to the air strikes and seeking help from the USA and other countries in finding places for the refugees.

Leveling the homes of a million people is a war crime.
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Oct 13 2023 05:33pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 13 2023 06:19pm)
Your version of empathy for the Israeli victims was to say I condemn the attacks then spend posting dozens upon dozens of posts about why it happened and how if the Jews didn't do X or Y it would have never happened.

Children are dying and going to die, which is shitty but the thing that so many of you want to happen is basically inaction, which obviously is not going to happen. There is no way to separate the civilian from the militant in Gaza. So Israel has only two choices do nothing and just accept it will be victimized once again or do something and accept the collateral damage that comes with it. The latter is happening.


Iran had the most condemning from me and I “condemned” Hamas in over 20 posts in the last 5 days, most recently when resident Israeli asked me to again because I am brown. However I understand you and the army of shit posters will read what is convenient.

Literally I have said since post one Hamas will and rightfully should be wiped off the face of the earth, according to you this is inaction. The difference is I don’t get an erection when I hear a hospital is out of power or half a thousand kids have died.

The lack of reading comprehension is astounding and I forgot why this forum was an utter waste of time. I should have honestly stayed gone when that goom fellow argued China tarrifs on apple increase apple profits but I guess I’m the fool that keeps coming back
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Oct 13 2023 05:34pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 13 2023 04:28pm)
Hamas has hundreds of tunnels, bunkers, defensive underground installations. Israelis going boots on the ground into Gaza to weed them without initial airstrikes would be devastatingly costly. Hamas is also expecting this so they have prepared traps, IED's, have anti-armor weapons.

There is no half measures or light touches, if they take that path, they will end up with 5 figures in dead IDF soldiers.


In other words, "I don't want too many of our soldiers to die, so I am going to genocide you".
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Oct 13 2023 05:34pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 13 2023 04:28pm)
Hamas has hundreds of tunnels, bunkers, defensive underground installations. Israelis going boots on the ground into Gaza to weed them without initial airstrikes would be devastatingly costly. Hamas is also expecting this so they have prepared traps, IED's, have anti-armor weapons.

There is no half measures or light touches, if they take that path, they will end up with 5 figures in dead IDF soldiers.


I think the plan to have people evacuate to the south so they can besiege the north is actually a pretty solid plan from the Israeli's**--Hamas telling/forcing people to stay and claims that Israel has bombed people while fleeing notwithstanding.

**What I mean by this is not the idea itself, but rather through the lens of harm-reduction given Israel's clear desire to take control of Gaza.

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Iran had the most condemning from me and I “condemned” Hamas in over 20 posts in the last 5 days, most recently when resident Israeli asked me to again because I am brown. However I understand you and the army of shit posters will read what is convenient.

Literally I have said since post one Hamas will and rightfully should be wiped off the face of the earth, according to you this is inaction. The difference is I don’t get an erection when I hear a hospital is out of power or half a thousand kids have died.

The lack of reading comprehension is astounding and I forgot why this forum was an utter waste of time. I should have honestly stayed gone when that goom fellow argued China tarrifs on apple increase apple profits but I guess I’m the fool that keeps coming back


Void still regularly says that it was the welfare state that caused single parent black households.

If you want any confirmation that he really is just getting a boner from the minority suffering
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Oct 13 2023 05:42pm
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 13 2023 07:33pm)
Iran had the most condemning from me and I “condemned” Hamas in over 20 posts in the last 5 days, most recently when resident Israeli asked me to again because I am brown. However I understand you and the army of shit posters will read what is convenient.

Literally I have said since post one Hamas will and rightfully should be wiped off the face of the earth, according to you this is inaction. The difference is I don’t get an erection when I hear a hospital is out of power or half a thousand kids have died.

The lack of reading comprehension is astounding and I forgot why this forum was an utter waste of time. I should have honestly stayed gone when that goom fellow argued China tarrifs on apple increase apple profits but I guess I’m the fool that keeps coming back


Cool, that's low hanging fruit. I think most of us in the civilized world agree that terrorists that slaughter kids and civilians should be eradicated and no compassion shown. Now explain how that happens? Like how is Israel supposed to accomplish this?

You spend the overwhelming majority of yours posts subsequently very clearly leaning to the other side, don't get mad or accuse people for failing reading comprehension. I don't care to read through 160+ pages but lets be honest, vast majority of your posts would not be in the 'pro-Israel' camp.

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Oct 13 2023 05:48pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 13 2023 04:42pm)
I think most of us in the civilized world agree that terrorists that slaughter kids and civilians should be eradicated and no compassion shown.


half the people here condemn all violence, the other half only condemns violence against Israelis. you want to talk about compassion?

This post was edited by gnarjay on Oct 13 2023 05:49pm
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