that isnt what they do. this is what they do:

Doctor appointed by Pres Obama: Pres Trump is mentally fit, aced his cognitive test score, is relatively healthy but he could lose 10 lbs or so.

Acosta at buzzfeed 2.0: “are you hiding anything from us”
Some other ‘reporter’: “but The President drinks over 9000 diet cokes and eats over 9000 cheeseburgers a day how is this possible? We know this is true cuz we reported it”
Some other ‘reporter’: “we dont like what youre saying Doctor, hes orange damnit theres no way you can be right”
Morning Joe: “i dont believe the doctor im smarter than both of them combined!!!!!”
Colbert: “Drumpf paid the doctor off fuck Drumpf hes orange damnit”

e: anti-Trump media and lefties are election-deniers and now showcasing that they are becoming science deniers. to hell with what the doctor says!

This post was edited by excellence on Jan 17 2018 12:07pm

they both are, but the pro-trump camp is just spreading clickbait that receives no traction in the mainstream media, whereas the anti-trump camp routinely spawns major fake news stories that dominate the news cycles for a few days or weeks
if I was just looking for conspiratorial nutwing websites that were posting drivel, I could find them in both stripes, maybe more of the pro-trumpers, but the other side sure exists. But I'd have to consciously go out and look for it
meanwhile fake news is plastered on major newspaper headlines on a pretty regular basis, I'll have it spooned to me on the 5:30 newscast by lester holt or whatever other botox horror show.

If Trump wanted to make a showing of all the best examples of fake news the mainstream media latched onto over the past year, he'd have so much material to draw on its almost a herculean task to sort it all out, it would take substantial effort just to remember all the crazy shit that turns out to be fraudulent, false, hoaxes, misrepresentations, etc. But this is Trump we're talking about, not me, so I have every expectation that it will get sidetracked with inanities and embarrassing moments instead of the real journalistic shitshows. I bet he'll proudly display CNN talking about '2 scoops of icecream' but won't even mention the false story against Scaramucci, because the former makes CNN look ridiculous and the latter reminds people that the Mooch existed which is a sore spot. But these are just wild predictions of mine, who knows.

There's so much good material and so many ways this could be done right that I fully expect him to fuck it up somehow

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jan 17 2018 12:07pm

I think camp Trump has utilized fake news far more often. It's not some weird coincidence that the Trump subreddit loves Alex Jones, or that Hannity has picked up on conspiracy theories with no real evidence.

First off, the Trump base hasn't trusted the mainstream media for years. A large segment of Republican voters are simply ignorant and far-right... just watch Republican primary debates from 08, 12, and 16... debating evolution, vaccines, climate change, etc. Fox News caters to that ignorant, far-right strain. Now they have a leader who fully embraces the alternative facts narrative.... that never happened before. McCain and Romney were serious-minded guys who called the media out for bias, but they never proudly held the banner for that ignorant, far-right segment.

I do think the media is anti-Trump to some degree, but a lot of this negative coverage is self-inflicted. Just ask yourself after Trump does or says something, would Obama get scrutiny for this? If Obama accused his predecessor of tapping his phone, if Obama commented on a right-wing female's facelift, if Obama accused the media of producing fake news over and over, if Obama golfed all the time but criticized Bush for it, etc etc. Trump is a completely unique(and unpresidential) president, and the media covers him accordingly.

Come now, this is like watching the Ides of March unfold and then saying "I do think Brutus and his cohorts are anti-Caesar to some degree".

And then you have to ask yourself why Obama didn't comment on his predecessor tapping his phones, or the media producing fake news against him. Because its not just Trump that is unique, but Trump's circumstances. His campaign was wiretapped, and no crafty semantics games change what we've seen morph over the past year from 'Trump is nuts for saying it' to 'It wasn't wiretaps' to 'It was wiretaps but not on trump' to 'It was wiretapping and used against Trump's administration and maybe picked up Trump but were justified!'. Likewise, Obama was a media darling who enjoyed sycophantic praise, he wasn't at war with the media because the media wasn't at war with him, and vice versa- the chicken and the egg aside, the circumstances are clearly different.

Lawl.

The semantics played out on the other side with the wiretapping thing. Trump's tweets made no sense, and still make no sense. How is Obama a bad(or sick) guy because the FBI intercepted members of the Trump campaign talking to foreigners? Clearly it showed Trump's ignorance with how these things worked, something he could've learned just by picking up a phone, but he's erratic.

It's true that Obama was a media darling when he started the presidency... but Obama wasn't erratic, he was eloquent and thoughtful, and he didn't have a press team covering for his nonsense every day. Trump through the campaign and presidency has controlled the coverage by consistently doing or saying ridiculous things. It's not anti-Trump to cover that.

But again, the media is anti-Trump to some degree. People have to separate the infotainment from the actual journalists though. Yes, Don Lemon is rabidly anti-Trump. So is Morning Joe. CNN's coverage is pretty bad a lot of the time. NYT/WaPo do a great job covering the White House.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 17 2018 01:13pm

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-was-most-surprising-about-trumps-first-year/



XD

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 17 2018 02:13pm

Unprecedented scoundrel in office, unprecedented coverage of a scoundrel in office.

fair enough, but if the mainstream media openly gives up any neutrality and journalistic standards when it comes to spinning a story against trump, they necessarily forfeit any "moral high ground" as well.