Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 26 2019 11:35pm)

Do I?



13% of the adult population is a tiny fraction of society, while 23% of Republicans is not "the entire Republican party".





See above. Of course 23% is a fucking high percentage if we take the context (that it was an insane conspiracy theory and there was tangible evidence against it in the form of his birth certificate) into consideration. The numbers still back up my claim and prove Skinned's statement wrong.

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Polls conducted in 2010 (before the April 2011 release [of Obama's birth certificate]) suggested that at least (1)25% of adult Americans said that they doubted Obama's U.S. birth,[7][8] and a May 2011 Gallup poll found that the percentage had fallen to (2)13% of American adults (23% of Republicans).

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 27 2019 12:05am)

The numbers belong to two different polls. The first poll from 2010 showed 25% of adult Americans believing in birtherism, which probably came mostly from Republicans, so 40+% support for birtherism among Republicans.
The second poll was taken in 2011, several months after Obama had released his birth certificate. In this second poll, support for birtherism had gone down to 13% of adults/23% of Republicans.

Quote (Knoppie @ 26 Nov 2019 23:58)

Those were ~50 voting Republicans, pre release of the certificate... Or am I missing somthing?

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“No reasonable person would believe that Devin Nunes’ cow actually has a Twitter account, or that the hyperbole, satire and cow-related jokes it posts are serious facts,” reads the filing in Virginia’s Henrico County Circuit Court. “It is self-evident that cows are domesticated livestock animals and do not have the intelligence, language, or opposable digits needed to operate a Twitter account. Defendant ‘Devin Nunes’ Mom’ likewise posts satirical patronizing, nagging, mothering comments which ostensibly treat Mr. Nunes as a misbehaving child.”

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 26 2019 11:57am)

Difference is, only a very tiny fraction of society ever took birtherism seriously, while 40+% were all in on the most implicating interpretation of the Mueller probe, the Ukraine investigation, the anti-Kavanaugh hysteria, and so on.
How much did Obama's presidency get slowed down due to birtherism? How much did Trump's presidency get slowed down, how severely did his political capital get depleted by Mueller and Ukraine?

Quote (IceMage @ Nov 26 2019 06:58pm)

Grouping birtherism in with Russiagate, Ukraine, and Kavanaugh just reveals your hand. Out of all of these issues, birtherism had the least validity. There's a metric ton of examples that partisan Democrats could look at as reason to believe Trump was a Russian asset. The same isn't so with Obama being born in Kenya.

Quote (IceMage @ 27 Nov 2019 00:58)

Grouping birtherism in with Russiagate, Ukraine, and Kavanaugh just reveals your hand. Out of all of these issues, birtherism had the least validity. There's a metric ton of examples that partisan Democrats could look at as reason to believe Trump was a Russian asset. The same isn't so with Obama being born in Kenya.

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Tuesday used the high power of his office to pardon “Butter,” a 47 pound (21 kg) turkey, during a U.S. tradition at the White House where he also cracked jokes about Democrats’ investigation into whether he should be impeached.

Both Butter and his alternate “Bread” escaped the fate of becoming the main course of a Thanksgiving feast and were sent to a special reserve in Virginia.

Standing at a podium in the Rose Garden, Trump said the birds had been raised to remain calm under “any condition.”

“Which will be very important because they’ve already received subpoenas to appear in Adam Schiff’s basement on Thursday.

“It seems the Democrats are accusing me of being too soft on turkey. But Bread and Butter, I should note, that, unlike previous witnesses, you and I have actually met.”

It posted videos of the turkeys checking into a special suite at the Willard Hotel, where political leaders have stayed in the past, and baseball card-like statistics on both Bread and Butter.

The National Turkey Federation introduced the birds in a press conference on Tuesday. In true Washington fashion, polling decided which turkey would receive the official pardon, with Americans sharing their preference for Butter on Twitter.

According to the White House, Butter enjoys listening to bagpipes and has a gobble style that is “rowdy.” Bread prefers Bluegrass music and wants to master aerial yoga.

Quote (IceMage @ Nov 26 2019 05:58pm)

Grouping birtherism in with Russiagate, Ukraine, and Kavanaugh just reveals your hand. Out of all of these issues, birtherism had the least validity. There's a metric ton of examples that partisan Democrats could look at as reason to believe Trump was a Russian asset. The same isn't so with Obama being born in Kenya.