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Black XistenZ

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Nov 26 2019 11:36am

Quote (obisent @ 26 Nov 2019 18:31)

^ Higher than I expected especially after release of documents, honestly thought this was a fringe rumor.

In a two party political system, 13% of the overall population, of which almost all are hyperpartisans, wont have a large impact on anything. If we're talking about 40% of the adult population or 80% of the voters of one party, that's a very different beast.

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Nov 26 2019 11:48am

U.S. Supreme Court extends block on Trump financial records dispute

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-trump-records/u-s-supreme-court-extends-block-on-trump-financial-records-dispute-idUSKBN1XZ2LW

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday gave President Donald Trump a boost by extending its hold on a lower court ruling that required his longtime accounting firm to hand over his financial records to a Democratic-led House of Representatives committee.

The unsigned order will remain in effect until after the Supreme Court decides whether to hear Trump’s appeal of the lower court ruling that directed Mazars LLP, Trump’s longtime accounting firm, to comply with the subpoena for the records.

Trump has until Dec. 5 to file his appeal. The action by the justices suggests that there is a good chance they will take up Trump’s appeal in his fight with the House Oversight Committee but does not guarantee it.

Another one for Trump.

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#1623

Nov 26 2019 12:34pm

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Nov 26 2019 08:41am)

Dumbest fucking thing I ever read.

Intersectionality is the recognition of how different 'causal roots' interact to create social inequalities.

This is so fucking stupid I don't even.

It's like saying 'Maths is the complete dismissal of the existence of numbers' or 'Science is the complete dismissal of the root causes of natural phenomena'.

The statement definitely goes too far.

I'd put it at "Intersectionality often ignores certain causal roots". The trans murder rate in these communities is directly related to the high violent crime rate. Instead of focusing on the most oppressed according to the intersections of identity we should be focusing on the community as a whole.

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Nov 26 2019 12:42pm

Counting "intersectionality points" doesnt tell us too much about the causal roots of issues. Poverty and crime go hand in hand, and they are responsible for the vast amount of victimization and lack of opportunity.

Racism, sexism, transphobia and so on are real issues, but their impact pales in comparison to poverty and dysfunctional communities.
In particular, since non-whites are overrepresented among the poor, any policy that helps the poor will automatically disproportionally help minorities, while being much less divisive than affirmative action, reparations or blacklivesmatter activism.

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Nov 26 2019 02:17pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 26 2019 06:36pm)

Wondering if you are aware that you're pushing about 50% under the carpet by using post "beast mode", release of certificate polls?

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Nov 26 2019 02:54pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 27 2019 04:06am)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

I guess for a leftist, 23% is "the entire party".

23% AFTER PROOF IS PROVIDED?
You think this is not significant?

Difference between this and mueller is that russia actually did interfere in the election and trump actually did attempt to break the law.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 26 2019 02:56pm

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Nov 26 2019 03:35pm

Quote (Plaguefear @ 26 Nov 2019 21:54)

He didnt say "significant share of the GOP", he said "... entire Republican party". For which 23% definitely doesnt qualify.

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Nov 26 2019 03:51pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 27 2019 08:35am)

He didnt say "significant share of the GOP", he said "... entire Republican party". For which 23% definitely doesnt qualify.

Are we going to pretend you didn't see that its AFTER PROOF? Even though you quoted it?

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Nov 26 2019 03:57pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 26 2019 04:35pm)

He didnt say "significant share of the GOP", he said "... entire Republican party". For which 23% definitely doesnt qualify.

You are selectively reading again.

Black XistenZ

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Nov 26 2019 04:35pm

Quote (Skinned @ 26 Nov 2019 22:57)

You are selectively reading again.

Do I?

Quote (Skinned @ 26 Nov 2019 18:01)

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 Nov 2019 17:57)

Difference is, only a very tiny fraction of society ever took birtherism seriously, while 40+% were all in on the most implicating interpretation of the Mueller probe, the Ukraine investigation, the anti-Kavanaugh hysteria, and so on. [...]

Tiny fraction aka the entire Republican party leaned into that and Benghazi.

13% of the adult population is a tiny fraction of society, while 23% of Republicans is not "the entire Republican party".

Quote (Plaguefear @ 26 Nov 2019 22:51)

Are we going to pretend you didn't see that its AFTER PROOF? Even though you quoted it?

See above. Of course 23% is a fucking high percentage if we take the context (that it was an insane conspiracy theory and there was tangible evidence against it in the form of his birth certificate) into consideration. The numbers still back up my claim and prove Skinned's statement wrong.

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