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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 3 2017 05:19pm)
those free market societies with their damnable safety nets keeping people from starving


Voluntary Christian charities are great, aren't they?
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Voluntary Christian charities are great, aren't they?


And despite increasing by an order of magnitude since Regan are still woefully inadequate to fulfill the need.

Great argument for governmental action old chap!
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And despite increasing by an order of magnitude since Regan are still woefully inadequate to fulfill the need.

Great argument for governmental action old chap!


The poverty rate is the same now as it was in the 60's :rofl:

inb4 NPR poll "debunking"
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"I don't need to hide, we pay the majority of taxes, when chaos ensues, your food stamps don't work and your black clad transgender and soyboy friends quickly learn the streets aren't a safe space"
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Ted Cruz' amendment to the Tax Bill:


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it's really interesting how ridiculously uninformed many people, especially right wing americans it seems, are when it comes to "socialism" and "capitalism". you guys really don't do nuance, do you? you really think things like affordable college education, reasonable worker / environmental protection, and universal healthcare inevitably lead to empty store shelves, huh?

reality is, most of the wealthiest and healthiest countries in the world with the highest living standards are significantly more "socialist" than america - but somehow suggesting such an approach (instead of failing with supply side economics for the 72nd time) reliably triggers the lazy "starving communist" response - which is even more ironic when you consider how high america's poverty rate is for example. the whole idea that anything "socialist" somehow equals "communist" and "bad" is so incredibly simplistic that i'm always amused to see who is willing to expose themselves by perpetuating that idiotic narrative.

just to be clear, generally speaking capitalism is clearly the superior and more successful approach, there is no doubt about that whatsoever. but it's also clear that some aspects of it have to be regulated in order to benefit the whole population rather than just a few. the toxic "if you're critical of some of its extreme aspects (corporate owned politicians, ppl dying because they can't afford available medication / healthcare...), you're anti-capitalist" rhetoric just shows how ignorant and unsophisticated some people are...


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The poverty rate is the same now as it was in the 60's :rofl:

inb4 NPR poll "debunking"

but our government spent so much on the war on poverty?
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but our government spent so much on the war on poverty?


Its funny because all of that money went into Bernie Sanders' pocket.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ 3 Dec 2017 20:03)
yeah all those free market capitalist societies with mass starvation :rolleyes:
your ignorance of history and economics is showing

http://i.imgur.com/zeY7BjB.jpg


Give me an example of a modern 'free market capitalist society' and I'll show you a country with socialist institutions handing out welfare or the disabled living in extreme poverty.
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