No you actually somehow found the one black libertarian who now plays uncle Tom. and decided to show how "diverse" you are by explaining the hardships that all the poor unfortunate Europeans had to fight against on their way up when they really did start halfway up the ladder even if there were some mean jokes made on their behalf

Actually I found it pretty funny and thought others would too.
Ignorant white guilt trippers and race baiters crying and not liking it is acceptable collateral damage for me.

Meanwhile you're such a scumbag that you'll insult black people with racial derogatory terms if they don't share the same socio-political views as you.
What was that you said the other day? "Shame on you"

The term certainly doesn't apply to Williams who is very knowledgeable and astute, will thoroughly question and study things, and seeks to make everyone (including black people) less oppressed.

How dare he be an educated black man that doesn't fall into your stereotypes? How dare he mention the plight of other races and ethnic groups?
He fought against Jim Crow laws and challenged the racial order in the military after he was drafted and faced a court martial but was instead transferred to Korea.
He even wrote a letter to JFK denouncing racism in government and the military:


Who the fuck are you to smear him as an uncle tom?

He was making a point that you shouldn't act like a fool on account of his race.. lesson not learned I guess.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Mar 14 2015 05:48am

You know, calling every black person who doesn't toe the Democrat line Uncle Tom makes you a racist. Hell, why didn't you just come right out and call Williams a token nigger? Isn't that what you meant to say?

This post was edited by Santara on Mar 14 2015 06:30am

Yeah when he does make it and then goes against the institutions that are meant to help others that start out on the bottom rung. Not blacks but poor blacks, poor whites, poor hispanics, anybody that needs that minimum wage that he deems unworthy now that he is beyond it.

It is so easy for those that have so much to expound on capitalist/libertarian views yet you wont find many poor men crying out for the dropping of the minimum wage will you? "Hey Ex steel plant worker now working the counter at McDonalds do you want the minimum wage dropped?" of fucking course not. it's a tool for the privileged not for him. And don't hand me the trickle down bullshit I've lived through it once and it only does what it's meant to do and that's pad the fucking wallets of the fucking rich 1%'ers.

So yes I call Mr. Williams and his Libertarian views a uncle Tom sell out to Capitalism I know he is intellectual and I had read his letter to JFK. And I would hold someone with that much heart to a higher standard than to pucker his lips and suck at the bunghole of the fucking almighty dollar bill as is the wont of the capitalist.

@ 1st bold: > implying he could only get to where he is with the help of special institutions set up by Democrats.

@ 2nd bold: greater than 90% of all adult minimum wage earners do not rely on that income as the primary source of household income. I bet your former steel plant worker is happier to be employed than not.

@ 3rd bold: so, it's intellectually impossible for blacks to hold such views, only whites? Right? Any blacks that hold such views are race traitors and they should be ridiculed for being token niggers?

Hah. I did a nice critique on a Walter Williams article when he tried to rewrite what happened during the Civil War. He is funny as hell.

I love how somebody can equivocate a natural disaster with a crime against people committed by other people. Only Walter Williams could do that

I had a Poli Sci teacher who really liked him for his ability to intend to write about something, then write about something completely different through the lens of the first thing. It was a really neat way of doing historical analysis.

Incredibly smart man, he contributes to my city newspaper quite a lot, but about as reactionary as they come. I bet you couldn't ask him a question in RL without him getting super defensive.

Everything he does is super-interesting and thought provoking. My American Constitution teacher made everybody write a response to some Walter Williams article because of his ability to turn an idea on its head and put a new light on it.

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 14 2015 09:38am

Barbaric crimes are actions closer to humans in their natural state and are often due to urges based on instincts left over from fight or flight nature. The analogy seems deeper than just a bad comparison if you ask me.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 14 2015 09:57am

gosh that kind of thinking really does scare me. It places a boundry that cant be broken down regardless of how racial relations improve, as if everyone (because its inherently racists to claim only blacks should have a responsibility to their race) should at some point owe their race something. I dont like that for blacks, white, or any race, and i think it sets up a dichotomy that implies that regardless of where racial equality stands there is an inherant difference in you that you owe something to. The difference between races biologically and intellectual potential are small to none, so i dont think that you owe anything to your physical characteristics at all. Its not something i think it outright dangerous, just a bit worrysome for future relations.


I also cant understand how Libs have this lasting impression of only benefiting the rich. Fiscally i can understand it, but socially i think thats way off. Personal responsibility is not only the best driving force in success its also the motto of Libs.

One of his major themes is identifying what a policy actually does instead of what its "meant" to do.. Claiming you are helping minorities and poor people doesn't actually make it so.

Contrary to your post, he is very concerned about those on the bottom rungs. The ones you want to chop off the ladder who will be without jobs and will have a much harder time working their way up.
Much of the shit you blindly support and make demagogic claims about actually harm many less-preferred people such as low-skilled and inexperienced workers, many of which happen to be minorities.
As he properly notes in his work, minimum wage laws for blacks were very popular with the racist unions in South Africa who sought to keep the jobs for themselves.
It wasn't exclusive to South Africa either: "Colored labor is being sought to demoralize wage rates.” - American Federation of Labor President William Green.

He goes to great lengths to explain exactly why and how these things work in a way that is easy to understand. You should actually read some of it and become educated on the issues instead of making despicable accusations, racial slurs and other insults.


Typical. ad populum followed up with demonization of rich people and an ignorant stab at economics. You're the equivalent to the congressman throwing snowballs to disprove climate change.

He will be the first one to tell you that minimum wage is a popular policy among the masses.
That doesn't mean its without bad consequences for some people. A popular policy is not necessarily a good policy.

How about the people who can't find jobs at $7.25 or $8? Do you think they need a $15 minimum wage?
The real minimum wage is $0 and your actions would condemn some of the most disadvantaged to potentially permanent unemployment.
But hey it might raise YOUR wages, and it sounds good in your elementary understanding of it, plus dem evil capitalists and teh dollars.. so why not right?

Your next post is just perpetuating myths about capitalism not being good for poorer people without substantiating the claim.. it shows a deep-seated ignorance.. to make matters worse you use that ignorance as a launching pad to fire racial slurs at black people for holding different views than you.
As I mentioned before,you should actually read his work. You would begin to understand that no, its not all bad for black and poor people.