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Feb 12 2023 02:46pm
hi, im an actual trans person, who wants to ask my opinion on the subject, it seems like you all desperately need one from me
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Feb 12 2023 03:04pm
Quote (blahaj @ Feb 12 2023 01:46pm)
hi, im an actual trans person, who wants to ask my opinion on the subject, it seems like you all desperately need one from me


what house are you in?
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Feb 12 2023 03:28pm
Quote (klink @ Feb 12 2023 03:04pm)
what house are you in?


i didnt buy the game, i looked at it as subjectively as possible, and decided it didnt look good, i have been playing other stuff, and on top of the fomo which didnt look worth it to me, the game itself seems to just be rather boring

if jk rowling didnt have such a hype about her this game would not have been on the radar imo...looks pretty mid...
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Feb 12 2023 03:36pm
this is the typical experience
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Feb 12 2023 03:47pm
Quote (Jupe @ Feb 12 2023 01:46pm)
Only going off the Littman study (I'm not here to defend it mind you) a fair amount (23%) of respondents did report detransitioning due to discrimination, so it certainly happens. Got sources for the rest of the info? As far as what I've read the numbers are largely unknown

/I think the only thing related to the healthcare coverage I've read is something that has to due with the reported suicide rate


Detransitioning because of discrimnation falls into that category of "bullied by their families". I was using that as a general term for "because society is being shit to them, not because they don't genuinely want to stay transitioned".

You can find the statistics on detransition pretty easily nowadays. I just googled and found this website, which lists statistics which are broadly in line with what I've read in other sources. https://www.gendergp.com/detransition-facts/

The long and short of it is that long term studies consistently show that the number of people who willingly detransition (detransition because of their own dissatisfaction and not due to social and financial pressures) is less than 1% of the total number of people who transitioned, and the proportion of willing detransitioners is often lower among youths who started on puberty blockers and then transitioned.

Basically the idea that "kids might transition and maker permanent life changing decisons before they are ready" is consistently shown to be a non-issue. You might get a few dozen of those nation wide (who can just stop the puberty blockers and resume their normal gender), and meanwhile save thousands of trans kids from suicide. From an outcomes-based perspective, which is how literally all medicine is judged, our current system of medicine is overwhelmingly successful when it comes to handling the desire for youths to transition.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Feb 12 2023 03:51pm
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Feb 12 2023 04:30pm
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i didnt buy the game, i looked at it as subjectively as possible, and decided it didnt look good, i have been playing other stuff, and on top of the fomo which didnt look worth it to me, the game itself seems to just be rather boring

if jk rowling didnt have such a hype about her this game would not have been on the radar imo...looks pretty mid...


your thoughts on the "alleged" transphobia by jk?
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your thoughts on the "alleged" transphobia by jk?


calling it transphobic isnt really accurate, i would consider her willingly ignorant to anti trans propaganda, an ally to the gender critical movements as they call themselves

she bolsters their movements and gives them a bit more of a voice, but it really was more localized to...well, not north america, more europe...

if you do even a miniscule amount of digging on the gender critical movement, you will find that it isnt innocent in nature...

its that kind of "trans woman exists therefor my rights as a "true woman(whatever that means)" are being infringed on, must destroy transgender existence!"

but they mask their intent(usually they are mask off though) by claiming that trans erasure is simply "gross hyperbole" and find little shields to get behind logically, making the trans movements walk into circles and sound stupid

never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience, is the general idea here

and since im sure alot of people here want to know what i think about it.... some random idiot on twitter, trans or not, if they are saying buying the game supports trans suicide, they are mislead

but even the middle of the pack should realize that when enough people say something about a group of people, it becomes a reality after enough amplification has been gotten on it

we do not demand to be thrown into society and have people accept us taking shits into litter boxes in childrens schools, or whatever crazy stories the media tries to come up with

we simply wish to take our hormones, get our surgeries if we so wish, and find our place in society, and an overwhelming majority of us do not wish to make our trans identity the mask of our entire being, i know i dont.

the past 5 years or so, we have seen alot in anti lgbt rhetoric, the easiest minority to attack mask off in broad daylight for major media outlets are transgender youth, and because of that the "too woke" narrative got created

the situation became a culture war that non trans political movements started to virtue signal their ranks to get in line. so much so that both sides, not just the aggressors, are becoming out of line
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Feb 12 2023 08:07pm
Quote (blahaj @ 12 Feb 2023 21:46)
hi, im an actual trans person, who wants to ask my opinion on the subject, it seems like you all desperately need one from me


do you want blanket immunity from all criticism and commentary, or do you prefer good faith debate about trans issues? oh right...
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Yeah I didn't intend to make bullying/discrimination two categories, they're the same thing. I would say I'm still skeptical about the detransition rate, but that's not to say I think there needs to be any changes because of that skepticism alone; the longer time goes on and the more studies/information available the better. That website was interesting to peruse, but their main 2015 study feels irrelevant today since things are vastly different now (female trans patients have skyrocketed). And for some reason one of their 2022 sources links to the 2015 article? If it holds true and very low amounts of people regret transitioning, that is a good thing though.

As I mentioned in an earlier post though when referencing the trans surgeon, I don't like the attitude: if you question conventional treatments (affirmative care, puberty blockers, hormonal treatment) you're perpetuating trans suicide. The research on the puberty blockers and hormone treatment seem up in the air.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33529227/
https://i.imgur.com/qaEtFAA.png (mostly positive, which is good)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33251587/
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We found insufficient evidence to determine the efficacy or safety of hormonal treatment approaches for transgender women in transition.


And it seems some countries are beginning to take a completely different approach to the treatment of trans children. I know NZ is focusing on mental health, but what's your opinion Sweden's approach? Do you think they're going to cause a massive spike in trans children suicide rates?
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/sweden-pulls-way-back-from-gender-affirming-care-for-children/
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Feb 13 2023 07:17am
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hi, im an actual trans person, who wants to ask my opinion on the subject, it seems like you all desperately need one from me


:lol: do you think gaming journalism should only be about whether or not the game is fun to play?
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