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You're aware that there are many lobbyist organizations that the left wing media constantly bashes on correct?
Like the many organizations funded by the Koch brothers?
Yes, quite aware.
Imagine if I threw up my hands and said "Koch who? sounds like a qanon conspiracy!" and insisted they are just some guys like any other.
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So lets talk about the Koch funded lobbyist groups and fossil fuels for a second:
As much as people want to pretend like they hate fossil fuels and that fossil fuel companies are evil, here's the problem: We didn't have a better solution until a few years ago. The main benefit to using fossil fuels is that one of the most important components to fuel a combustion engine happens to be the air itself. So you don't need to drive around with a giant air tank on your car because your car's engine can just pull in fresh air as it drives. Now that solar energy is substantially cheaper than any form of fossil fuels, (which is simply due to the mechanical advantage of not having to do any work to generate energy from the sun, the panel is stationary), we are seeing a massive shift aware from fossil fuels and realistically speaking: It does seem like the free market will actually work out in the long run simply because green energy costs less... That has actually been a fossil fuel company talking point for like 50+ years.
This is perhaps mostly irrelevant and I disagree on the extent that its the free market deciding which energy is used, but we have some common ground here.
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As far as the media:So for years there's been all these writers that have been bashing on right/libertarian leaning lobbyist organizations and obviously there are people in the right wing media that think it's unfair.
So we've got Michael Walsh, who is a big right wing media writer, who's sitting here scratching his head thinking "Wow it would be great if there was some left leaning organization that I could bash on just like they do to us."
So, I really hope that you're not going to be too shocked to find out that the WEF is indeed a left leaning lobbyist organization that promotes concepts like universal healthcare...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-economic-forum/Wow, so it's not really a surprise that people like Michael Walsh are saying bad things about the WEF is it?
My life and worldview do not revolve around michael walsh and what he opposes. Forget Michael Walsh. This isn't about him.
The fact that he is supposedly a right wing writer that you really don't like means nothing.
It certainly does not mean the WEF is no big deal.
As many people often do, you are more concerned with
who is supporting something rather than the content of the issue.
I think about what is true and what is right and wrong.
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Finally:
So do you understand the media back and forth now and understand that basically all of it is complete bullshit?
Lobbyist organizations don't actually have any authority to do anything under US law besides talk to politicians and donate money to them...
Some organizations like the Heritage Foundation will actually spend money on behalf of politicians to write the actual text of the laws, but they don't vote on it...
That's what politicians do.
This is very naive and woefully underestimating a group of extremely powerful and wealthy people with a sinister agenda.. a group you weren't aware existed until today, apparently.
'There are right wing groups too!' - There is no equivalency between the kochs or heritage and the WEF.
Bringing them up does not really address the points we were talking about nor does it make you any more aware of the WEF and qualified to dismiss them as just some lobbying group with a qanon-level conspiracy about them.