Quote (said_aouita @ Feb 3 2023 10:48pm)

China is done for thankfully, within 10-20 years.

Birth rate has been dropping rapidly since the early 90s in China. They have lied about population, and because of the one child policy China has more people in their 60s than 50s...than 40s, 30s, 20s...and so on.
News flash: males can't have children on their own.
Mexican labor is more skilled and has 1/3rd the cost of Chinese labor.
The tech barricades imposed on China prevents them from purchasing the tech tools and software necessary to manufacture semiconductors.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/national-security-semiconductors-and-us-move-cut-china

Tech has stalled in China. They don't have the young people to replace the old.
China is the world's largest importer of food and energy.
China will not invade tiawan because the sanctions that would be imposed (russia) would wipe them out in less than a year.

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 3 2023 05:51pm)

all of that will slow china down. provided its leadership continues to do what it is doing it will only be slowed by the above, not stopped. they literally have a 100 year plan. they wont be an importer of energy for much longer.

Quote (said_aouita @ Feb 3 2023 10:59pm)

OK, say they somehow no longer have to import energy. Where is their food going to come from, if they do something stupid?
A 100 year plan is exactly why they are done for. Technology changes daily, and China is left with 100 year old scientists....

Quote (Ghot @ Feb 3 2023 11:02pm)

Q: Why did the dropping of a Thanksgiving platter, mean international disaster?

A: It meant the fall of Turkey, the ruin of Greece and the destruction of China. :D

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 3 2023 06:01pm)

well they can buy food from the money they make from the energy they will be exporting.

It was reported in November 2021 that China planned to build 150 new reactors at a cost of $440bn (2.8trn yuan), which is more reactors than the rest of the world has built over the past 35 years.
China is planning the world’s largest wind farm, a facility so huge it could power the whole of Norway.

Quote (said_aouita @ Feb 3 2023 11:05pm)

They can't simply purchase food if the world doesn't sell it to them, do you not understand how sanctions work?

China is planning....part of that 100 year plan. Ok. Let me know when they no longer are world worlds largest importer of food and energy, then maybe I'll be concerned.

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 3 2023 06:14pm)

why is this the point of concern ? surely the point of concern is a military conflict between the US and China (accepting this could be a decade or two away).